In the Footsteps of Giants
122 episodes - English - Latest episode: 7 days ago -After thirty years of touring the golfing world two pals discuss how to encourage others to follow in the footsteps of their golfing heroes and play the best courses just like the pros. The golf may not emulate our heroes but we have a lot of fun and laughs along the way. A podcast full of stories and suggestions about how to run your own golf tour, plus everything we find interesting on the professional golf tours. Perfect for your average golf nut!
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Two men and a Scheffler Masters Class
April 16, 2024 11:00 - 1 hour - 48.4 MBThe first major of the 2024 season is in the books and Scottie Scheffler has comprehensively proved why he is the best player in the world right now. However, Ludvig Aberg is the real deal, Max Homa and Tommy Fleetwood are contenders for majors and Bryson De Chambeau remains an entertaining addition to any major. Martin, Des and special guest Steven G return to the ITFOG studio to discuss all the top stories from this years Masters. Whose predictions were correct and who fell short? Interact...
Two men and an annual tradition like no other
April 09, 2024 09:00 - 1 hour - 58.9 MBMartin and Des hit the studio on a wet Monday evening to preview the 2024 Masters, the likely winners/losers and uncover some fun facts about Augusta National. Joining them is 'friend of the show', Steven G, who spent this week last year in a white boiler suit whilst striding the fairways of Augusta as caddy to local Amateur Matt McLean. Who better to keep us right on our opinions than a man who has walked inside the ropes. Masters week is always an exciting time as it welcomes in the major ...
Two men and the 2020 Masters preview (Repeat)
March 30, 2024 08:00 - 49 minutes - 34.2 MBTo cover the ITFOG team's absence over the Easter period and bridge the gap until our 2024 Masters preview, we are posting our first ever attempt at an event preview from November 2020. At that time the podcast was only 2 months old, Covid was still a major concern and we were still learning the ropes about how to put episodes together. However, we did start our previewing efforts with a win which definitely filled us with an optimism rarely borne out for future events. We hope you enjoy thi...
Two men and a repeat at sawgrass
March 19, 2024 13:00 - 1 hour - 46.8 MBA great weekend following the action at the Players Championship from one of our all time favourite courses, the legendary TPC Sawgrass. Martin and Des convene in the studio to recap the results and storylines from one of the best tournaments of any golfing season. Scottie runs it back for a repeat win, Wyndham's luck runs out on the 72 hole with the cruellest of horseshoe putts and Xander falters on the final day. Also a little debate on where the "secret meeting" between PGA Board members ...
Two men and a second Full Swing
March 12, 2024 13:00 - 1 hour - 54.6 MBWe spend a little time this week on a tournament roundup but a much larger section of the show is dedicated to our review of Full Swing, Season 2. Does it improve on Season 1? Who comes out of it well and who doesn't? How much do we really learn about the job of being a professional golfer on a competitive tour in volatile times? How many engines does Dustin Johnson's boat need to get him to his favourite fishing spot? How can Team USA arrive unprepared in Rome? Joining us for our review of...
Two men and a golfing centurion
March 06, 2024 16:00 - 1 hour - 48.2 MBSome weeks feel quieter than others but as Martin and Des hit the studio there was no shortage of things to talk about. We start with a good news story as a local golfer hits 100 years old and is still playing and enjoying his golf with pals. We also cover the results from the Cognizant Classic (formerly the Honda Classic) after it's Monday finish and also LIV Jeddah. Plenty of chat about Anthony Kim's return to golf, Talor Gooch's latest dumb statement, Ian Poulter's loss of interest in fu...
Two men and a Tiger's dodgy tummy
February 21, 2024 10:00 - 1 hour - 44.5 MBAfter an eventful couple of weeks the boys are back in the studio to discuss many aspects of the current golfing landscape. Tiger's withdrawal from Riviera, Jordan's DQ, Hidecki's superb final day charge, Cantlay's pace of play and 'In & Out' burgers. Elsewhere we discuss the LET signature event from Riyadh, Saudi Arabia which is lucrative for the ladies but lacked any real atmosphere. Our opinions on the Wasted Open from TPC Scottsdale and whether LIV Golf Las Vegas made any real impact goi...
Two men and a strategic sports agreement
February 05, 2024 20:00 - 1 hour - 45.9 MBMartin and Des hit the studio to talk about the DP World Tour returning to Bahrain after 13 years, the AT&T at Pebble Beach being reduced to 54 holes and Jon Rahm's introduction to life on LIV at Myakoba. Then there is the small matter of the PGA and SSG announcing their deal with Mr PIF currently left out in the cold. Has Tiger turned the tide and do the PGA still really want a deal with Yasir? We try to answer these and other questions plus a few contributions from the Twittersphere. Inter...
Two men and a Dubai dash
January 24, 2024 10:00 - 1 hour - 57.9 MBThe Hero Dubai Desert Classic is seen by many as the true start of the DPWT season and we were fortunate enough to have a team on the ground for the 2024 event. This episode covers our experiences in Dubai at the tournament plus a couple of rounds of actual golf in the sunshine. We delve into one of the big mysteries of world golf namely, what on earth is in Rory's security guards backpack? Returning to the studio we finish out the episode chatting about Nick Dunlap's historic win, Ryder Cup...
Two men and a delayed agreement
January 10, 2024 17:00 - 58 minutes - 40.5 MBWelcome back to the podcast, our first episode of 2024. Martin and Des made it into the studio but young Mike is connecting from a remote location and we did have to resolve some delay issues, so we apologise if the audio quality is below our normal standards. Plenty to discuss especially around the non completion of the Framework Agreement by the target date. A brief review of the Sentry Championship from Kapalua, some predictions for 2024, breaking news and rumours from around the world of...
Two men and a year of unpredictable outcomes
December 27, 2023 04:00 - 1 hour - 47.9 MBOur last episode of 2023 sees us try to remember stuff that could easily have been forgotten from this year. We also talk about our favourite golfing experiences of this year plus have a surprise visit from one of our irregular correspondents. We start debating a 'cool' nickname for our listeners although I am not yet sure that we have found a long term answer. Anyone with a good suggestion please let us know. On behalf of Martin, Des and young Mike can I thank all of our listeners for conti...
Two men and a Christmas 'naughty or nice' list
December 12, 2023 16:00 - 1 hour - 60.8 MBAs we approach Christmas 2023 Martin, Des and young Mike compile their golfing 'naughty or nice' list for 2023. Some choices are obvious but plenty of debate ensues regarding other suggestions. We all thought 2022 was the most turbulent year in professional golf but 2023 has not lacked excitement, intrigue, betrayal, uncertainty, arrogance and even some potential redemption. A light hearted assessment of who should get presents this Christmas and who should spend time on the naughty step. Hu...
Two men and a Captain's vindication
November 28, 2023 10:00 - 58 minutes - 40.2 MBLate November and Martin & Des were expecting to be talking about golfing trivia but the big stories keep coming in 2023. Ludvig Aberg & Nicolai Hojgaard are winning big, Min Woo Lee is on fire, Cam Smith is missing cuts, Jon Rahm is contemplating the most overpriced offer in world sport and Luke Donald is looking forward to Christmas with a satisfied grin. Des has been on the winning trail in Tenerife and young Mike is again stuck in meetings. A typically busy episode for the team at In The...
Two men and Colombian comeback
November 21, 2023 20:00 - 59 minutes - 40.8 MBMartin and Des discuss recent good news stories from the world of golf and look forward to the Race to Dubai final. Most of this episode was recorded ahead of the news that Rory McIlroy had stepped down from the Player Advisory Board and the implications of this action. We stalled uploading our episode for a few days in the hope of some further insight/clarity but with little new information forthcoming we will just have to wait a bit longer. Interact with the podcast via our Twitter/X porta...
Two men and a second season finale
November 06, 2023 04:00 - 1 hour - 42.4 MBMartin and Des spend some time assessing the outcomes of LIV's second season. Have they made real progress or is the initial novelty wearing off. A couple of players have undoubtedly played well but will we ever really see them again in the majors as their exemptions start to expire. With the Framework Agreement seemingly going to miss its' 31st December deal deadline and world events starting to impact discussions, do we really think 2024 sees a unified Tour incorporating the PIF? Certainly...
Two men and a Masters caddie
October 28, 2023 08:00 - 1 hour - 46.8 MBMartin and Des are joined in the studio by Stephen Gracey who caddied for local amateur Matt McClean at both this year's Masters and US Open. Stephen recounts how he felt as he first turned into Augusta knowing that he was going to play a part in the 2023 Masters. How long did he take to settle, did he keep the famous white boiler suit, just how green is the grass and how does the Masters compare to the very different experience of a US Open? We discuss all this and much more on this episode...
Two men and a century celebration with Alan Shipnuck
October 12, 2023 21:00 - 1 hour - 44.9 MBAs we upload our 100th ITFOG episode (ignoring summer repeats) we are delighted to be joined by New York Times bestselling author (and friend of the show) Alan Shipnuck to discuss his new book "LIV and Let Die, the inside story of the war between the PGA Tour and LIV Golf". We cover many topics from the book including Greg's motivation, Mr PIF's limitless cash, the true reasons behind the trojan horse that is LIV Golf, the OWGR's decision not to grant ranking points and 'hatgate'. Also we di...
Two men and a Roman retribution
October 03, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 61 MBA full contingent for today's post Ryder Cup episode with Martin, Des and young Jonny in the studio plus young Mike joining from an air traffic control tower (or just a remote location). So much to talk about following Europe's victory at Marco Simone (just what is the correct pronunciation) in what turned to be a tension filled few days. Was golf the winner? Have partisan crowds reached the tipping point between supporting the home team but failing to respect the visitors? Should uncorrobor...
Two men and a tricky Italian job
September 26, 2023 21:00 - 58 minutes - 40.3 MBA double episode week to cover the Solheim & Ryder Cups. In our second podcast of the week, Martin and young Mike discuss the strengths and weaknesses of both teams competing at Marco Simone in this years Ryder Cup. Have the Captain's selected all the best players or are there better players out there? Who will rise to the intense challenge in the spectator heated cauldron? Plus a few fun facts about the Ryder Cup and the course it is being played on. Interact with the podcast via our Twitt...
Two men and a retained Solheim Cup
September 26, 2023 15:00 - 46 minutes - 31.9 MBMartin discusses the retention of the Solheim Cup with ITFOG's lead LPGA correspondent, Debbie. Who were Europe's key contributors? Is retaining the Cup the same as actually winning it? What are the key takeaways from this year's event? Additionally Martin has a chat with Howie regarding his recent visit to play Marco Simone and why it left a very nondescript impression on him. Our main Ryder Cup preview drops shortly as a stand alone episode but interact as usual via our Twitter/X portal @...
Two men and a seriously hot Irish Open
September 10, 2023 20:00 - 1 hour - 47.5 MBMartin hits the road with young Jonny to enjoy a day at the Horizon Irish Open at the K Club. Some 20 years since they were at a pro tournament together and they picked about as hot a day as you can get on a golf course in Ireland. Plenty of chat about how the logistics worked and also their impressions again watching the pros up close and personal. A good opportunity to see the current form of several Ryder Cup selections as well as a few others who could very easily have been on the plane ...
Two men and a cheery Norse god
September 02, 2023 05:00 - 1 hour - 47.3 MBAs Thin Lizzy would say "the boys are back in town" and this episode launches Season 4 of In The Footsteps Of Giants, a podcast for golf fans by golf fans. Martin and Des hit the studio to tidy up some late summer stories and start our debate on the upcoming Ryder Cup following the US finalising their team earlier this week. Europe will announce next week so plenty still to come before the contest begins in earnest in three weeks time. Plenty of stats and hopefully a few laughs to keep you e...
Two men and a Norwegian express train (Summer repeat)
August 24, 2023 05:00 - 1 hour - 47.6 MBAs the ITFOG team finish up their well deserved summer break, before diving into Season 4, we thought we should recognise Viktor's big win in the BMW held at Olympia Fields. This episode was first released in February 2022 where we celebrated the Norwegian superstar and predicted big things for his future. Viktor has not disappointed and has had a great season culminating in his latest win and a guaranteed Ryder Cup place. Best of all he has done this with a smile on his face that is infecti...
Two men and a roadtrip to Walton Heath
August 14, 2023 19:00 - 55 minutes - 37.9 MBPart of our summer series saw us head to Walton Heath for the AIG Women's British Open, so naturally we packed the portable podcast kit to record our thoughts and experiences of a women's major championship. Recorded in three segments, we talk about the Wednesday practice day/pro am, Friday as players look to make the cut and championship Sunday. Was it worth the trip to England, what were our highlights, who did we meet and what is the most annoying thing about the course. Interact with the...
Two men and a future Ryder Cup venue
August 04, 2023 05:00 - 32 minutes - 22.2 MBPart of our summer recess series, this episode features a chat between Martin and young Mike about the future Ryder Cup venue, Adare Manor. Home of the JP McManus Pro Am which saw the first interactions between players following defections from the established tours to the Saudi funded LIV Golf. This episode ignores all that and focuses on the venue and our recent experiences playing the course and staying in the hotel. Interact with us via our twitter feed @ITFOG_podcast with any questions ...
Two men and a deadly Hoylake hunter
July 24, 2023 21:00 - 1 hour - 42.2 MBMajor season is over, Brian Harman comprehensively won the final major at Hoylake leaving the hopes of Rory, Tommy, Scottie and John to drift on the wind until Augusta next year. Martin and Des discuss the Open and its' ramifications on Ryder Cup selection plus look at some serious stats that the week produced. Des has a nice little tale for Caddie's Corner and Martin corrects Des, not once but twice! Final episode of Season 3 but we will be back with Season 4 starting around the finale of t...
Two men and a massive Scottish Roar
July 18, 2023 08:00 - 1 hour - 44.2 MBMartin and Des reflect on a great win for Rory in the Genesis Scottish Open at the renaissance Club, where playing conditions over the weekend were very challenging. How does this win bode for Rory's Open quest at Hoylake later this week? Who else will come to play at the year's final major? Episode also includes a recap on the Women's US Open from Pebble Beach, the PGA/LIV Senate hearings and the implications for 2024 and beyond. Regular listeners will welcome back Des's tales from Caddie C...
Two men and a resurgent winner
July 05, 2023 07:00 - 1 hour - 43.9 MBMartin and Mike catch up on a couple of busy weeks in the golfing world. Rickie Fowler is back! Bernhard Langer sets a new record! The Ladies US Open is at Pebble Beach! Plus discussions on some likely contenders for Ryder Cup places and also whether the published Framework agreement brings us any closer to working out whether the PGA/LIV peace accord will actually turn into a viable roadmap for the sport. Interact with the podcast via our twitter link @ITFOG_podcast.
Two men and another broken dream
June 19, 2023 21:00 - 50 minutes - 34.5 MBThe US Open is in the books and Martin, Des and young Mike reflect on how another major slipped from Rory's grasp. Wyndham Clark is the champion but it was close all the way to the wire. The boys also discuss LACC and whether it is a good major venue and whether west coast majors are wise for an international audience. The search for the best player with only a single major reaches it's conclusion. Interact with the podcast via our Twitter link @ITFOG_podcast
Two men and a man who led the Masters
June 15, 2023 19:00 - 1 hour - 56.7 MBAs we start the US Open, Martin & Des chat to local amateur Mathew McClean who is playing this week at LA Country Club. The interview was recorded a couple of weeks ago and also features our discussion on Mathew's experiences at Augusta earlier this year, especially the moment where his name was at the top of the leaderboard. Young Mike joins us for our brief US Open discussion and our predictions. Interact with the podcast via our Twitter link @ITFOG_podcast
Two men and a seismic shift
June 08, 2023 23:00 - 1 hour - 56.3 MBMartin and young Mike spend some time trying to work out how the events of Tuesday 6th June 2023 will affect the golf world going forward. Can a deal really happen between the PGA Tour, DP World Tour and the PIF which effectively brings LIV into the fold.? Is this peace in our time or simply a sticking plaster over a wound that will burst open once the pressure mounts. Interact with the podcast via our twitter link @ITFOG_podcast
Two men and a Block party
May 23, 2023 11:00 - 1 hour - 44.8 MBThe second major of 2023 is in the rearview mirror so Martin and Des review the top stories from Oak Hill. The Brooks Koepka redemption arc which led to lifting his fifth major trophy, the joy and happiness around watching Michael Block create a movie worthy four days, Viktor Hovland finally truly contend and what does this win mean for the Ryder Cup later this year. As usual there is plenty to discuss in the aftermath of a major championship so enjoy the episode. Interact with the podcast v...
Two men and a USPGA prediction
May 17, 2023 11:00 - 1 hour - 47.5 MBMartin and Des sit down to try and identify who has the best chance of winning this week's USPGA Championship at Oak Hill. A number of players are "coming in hot" but with 156 players in the field identifying a winner is not an easy task. Episode also discusses news from around the world of golf and Des tests Martin's analytical skills as he outlines some golfing world records. Enjoy the 2nd major of 2023 and interact with the podcast via our twitter link @ITFOG_podcast.
Two men and a repopulated studio
May 03, 2023 05:00 - 1 hour - 49 MBMartin is relieved to find the chairs in the ITFOG studio occupied by both Des and young Mike. Easier to discuss golf with your co-hosts actually in attendance. Plenty of chat about the Mexico Open, the Korea Championship and LIV Singapore. Also the quarter final matches in our search to find the best player with only a single major. Additional discussions on the OWGR and Mike brings us the ultimate fourball trip currently available on the market. Interact with the podcast via our twitter li...
Two men and an empty studio
April 20, 2023 05:00 - 44 minutes - 30.7 MBIn this episode Martin flies solo in the studio and addresses the issue of slow play and whether it is fair to lay all the blame at Patrick Cantlay's door. A quick review of the RBC Heritage from Harbour Town and then round two of our matchplay competition to identify the best player with only one major. Due to recent events this pre-recorded segment needed a slight updating. Des and housewives/househusbands favourite young Mike will return to the podcast in the next episode. Interact with ...
Two men and a Rahmpaging Spanish bull
April 10, 2023 19:00 - 1 hour - 44.6 MBThe 2023 Masters is in the rearview mirror but what a week and what a winner. Martin and Des discuss the events at Augusta and just how close some of the LIV players came to creating a major upset. A heavyweight contest fought out over the awe inspiring Augusta National where both the course and the weather had a big part to play in the outcome. Find out how accurate/inaccurate our predictions were and many other stories from the first major of 2023. Interact with the podcast via our Twitter...
Two men and a goodbye to Austin
March 29, 2023 19:00 - 1 hour - 46.3 MBFollowing on from the last scheduled WGC event, the Dell Matchplay, Martin, Des and young Mike reflect on the event and their feelings of loss as this tournament fades away. Some intriguing facts about Austin Country Club and it's longtime head professional, Harvey Penick. The boys also draw the next round of matches in their quest to identify the best player with only one major. Our usual roundup of interesting nuggets from the Twittersphere plus a brief look forward to Masters week. Will L...
Two men and a bifurcation update (bonus chat)
March 17, 2023 06:00 - 11 minutes - 8.11 MBHappy St Patricks day to all our listeners worldwide! As bifurcation again becomes a hot topic, Martin and Des chat about the issue and suggest a few more interesting options. Interact with the podcast via our Twitter portal @ITFOG_podcast
Two men and a Sawgrass masterclass
March 15, 2023 17:00 - 1 hour - 61.4 MBThe Players Championship is in the rearview mirror leaving us with a multitude of talking points. Just how good is Scottie Scheffler? How did Tyrell Hatton turn $143k into $2.7m over nine holes? Did the event miss the defending champion? Is the 17th the most exciting/exacting hole on the PGA Tour? Which top five player flew home in coach after earning more than $1m at the tournament? Why does Aaron Rai have iron covers on his clubs? Who blew $1.3m over a three hole stretch. The Players never...
Two men and a Full Swing review (part 2)
March 08, 2023 20:00 - 1 hour - 53.8 MBSo many things to talk about on this week's episode and good to have young Mike back in the studio alongside Martin and Des. Some great golfing stories from the last couple of weeks plus a brief preview of one of our favourite tournaments of the year, the Players Championship @ TPC Sawgrass. Also we conclude our review of Full Swing and grade season one just as we hear that season two has been commissioned. Definitely getting into the best part of the golfing year so hopefully you will all e...
Two men and a Full Swing review (part 1)
February 23, 2023 06:00 - 1 hour - 53.3 MBAfter a stunning week for golf content Martin & Des go into the studio to analyse all that has occurred. Joining them is Martin's son Mark (a sports nut but only a casual golf fan) as a temporary replacement for young Mike and to ensure that the younger demographic is heard. Bernard Langer wins again, John Rahm wins again and Lydia Ko wins again proving the insane consistency that these three produce. Tiger plays all four days at Riviera and Netflix drop their behind the scenes of the PGA To...
Two men and a difficult club selection
February 15, 2023 06:00 - 1 hour - 46 MBLots happening in the world of golf but nothing more important than the news that Tiger is playing a tournament this coming weekend! However, plenty of other things to talk about before then including Scottie winning in Phoenix and getting back to world no1, the mad crowd at Scottsdale and the leaderboard for the first elevated event. Plus, we take our podcast kit out on location as we seek to find the best driver for a 63 year old, 9 handicap player with a tendency to fade the ball. Interac...
Two men and a spare child
February 02, 2023 21:00 - 1 hour - 47.2 MBDeserted by his usual co-hosts, Martin drafts in Pat and his son Paul to discuss the events in Dubai. Rory's resolve to win, Patrick's determination not to lose and stateside John Rahm's mini collapse. Paul brings us his top ten courses played and his top 5 bucket list options, always a good way to get golfers talking. A quick run around the twittersphere rounds out the episode with some topical talking points. Interact with the podcast via our twitter link @ITFOG_podcast
Two men and a statement of intent
January 26, 2023 17:00 - 1 hour - 47.9 MBMartin and Des discuss the stellar start to the year by John Rahm, the outcome at Yas Links (a course the boys played in 2019) and some memories of their visit to the Emirates Club in 2008. Following Greg's announcement of the CW tv deal for LIV the boys talk about the likely impact/engagement of real golf fans and Martin makes a bold prediction about LIV's life cycle. Is the end already in sight? Interact with the podcast via our twitter link @ITFOG_podcast
Two men and an elevated new year
January 12, 2023 23:00 - 1 hour - 48.5 MBMartin and young Mike review the Sentry Tournament of Champions and preview 2023. As usual for a new year podcast we have a go at predicting who will win majors in 2023, both mens and ladies, and also how will the Ryder/Solheim Cups play out. Will LIV Golf stride forward or are we already seeing the cracks in their business strategy widening? Plenty to discuss as we look forward to a new golfing year. Interact with the podcast via our Twitter feed @ITFOG_podcast if you wish to agree/disagree...
Two men and a most unusual year
December 30, 2022 06:00 - 1 hour - 58.8 MBFor the last time in 2022 Martin, Des and young Mike hit the studio and try to distill, disseminate and discuss everything that has happened in this most unusual of golfing years. Who were 2022's biggest winners and losers? As ever there are a range of varied opinions but unusually quite a lot of agreement. With thanks to all our listeners for their loyalty throughout 2022 and we hope to keep bringing you interesting content in 2023. Interact with the podcast via our twitter link @ITFOG_po...
Two men and a Christmas cracker
December 20, 2022 12:00 - 55 minutes - 37.9 MBAs Christmas approaches Martin, Des and young Mike get together to discuss some of the off season events, the New York Times investigation into LIV finances and viability, plus our hopes (and fears) for gifts at Christmas. We wish all our listeners a very happy and peaceful Christmas with their families and friends.
Two men and a US Mid Am champion
December 09, 2022 06:00 - 1 hour - 48.5 MBMartin and young Mike welcome local amateur Mathew McClean into the studio to talk about his recent victory at Erin Hills in the US Mid Am championship. Mathew's win comes with opportunities galore in 2023 including invites to the US Amateur championship, the US Open and probably (whisper it quietly) the Masters at Augusta. Playing off a +6 handicap is something average golfers can not truly comprehend but as we find out it is all about mindset. Interact with the podcast via our Twitter feed...
Two men and an ill-conceived lawsuit
November 25, 2022 06:00 - 1 hour - 44.3 MBMartin and Des tie up the loose ends from the 2022 DP World Tour with a recap on both the Nedbank (Africa's major) at Sun City and the DP World Tour Finals on the Earth Course in Dubai. The boys also discuss the validity of Greg Norman's claim that he hopes to sign 7 OWGR top 20 players to LIV ahead of the 2023 season. Patrick Reed's lawsuit dismissal gets a touch before the boys consider some of the new rules coming in in 2023, something Patrick Reed should also do. Plus some quirky news ...
Two men and a Portuguese tart
November 11, 2022 06:00 - 55 minutes - 38.4 MBWe recently organised a budget golf tour to Lisbon, Portugal and this episode discusses the pros and cons of a blitz tour. From budget airlines to overcrowded/average condition golf courses, excursions to do and ways to ensure you get good value for your hard earned euros. Martin & Des reminisce (well the bits Des can actually remember) whilst young Mike asks a few pertinent questions as he listens to the tale of the tour. Was it a good tour? Opinions certainly vary on that point. Interact ...