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In Lieu of Fun

218 episodes - English - Latest episode: 3 months ago - ★★★★★ - 60 ratings

There's a coronavirus crisis. We thought people might need something to do in lieu of fun. And some people might need someone to yap at them as they go through this. We have a lot of cool friends. So we started a show.

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Episodes

In Lieu of Fun Live!

January 26, 2024 17:42 - 1 hour - 663 MB

On the evening of Jan. 22, 2024, at the Knight Foundation's INFORMED conference in Miami, Florida, In Lieu of Fun made a brief comeback for a live event. Kate flew in from Paris. Guests included Renee DiResta and Katie Harbath. The subject was election integrity in 2024. The audience participated. Scotch was consumed. Hilarity ensued. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

#DogShirtTV: Yascha Mounk on "The Identity Trap"

December 05, 2023 14:25 - 1 hour - 239 MB

In this episode of #DogShirtTV: #BookShirts, we discuss Yascha Mounk's s new book, "The Identity Trap: A Story of Ideas and Power in Our Time." Publisher's Description: For much of history, societies have violently oppressed ethnic, religious, and sexual minorities. It is no surprise that many who passionately believe in social justice came to believe that members of marginalized groups need to take pride in their identity to resist injustice. But over the past decades, a healthy apprecia...

#DogShirtTV: Ruth Ben-Ghiat on "Strongmen"

November 22, 2023 18:42 - 1 hour - 258 MB

Author Ruth Ben-Ghiat discusses her book, "Strongmen: How They Rise, Why They Succeed, How They Fall" Publisher's Description: Ours is the age of the strongman. Russia, India, Turkey and America are ruled by men who, as they have risen to the top, have reshaped their countries around them, creating cults of personality which earn the loyalty of millions. And as they do so, they draw on a playbook of behaviour established by figures such as Benito Mussolini, Muammar Gaddafi and Adolf Hitler...

#DogShirtTV: Kristin Kobes Du Mez on "Jesus and John Wayne"

October 17, 2023 16:44 - 1 hour - 80 MB

In this episode of #DogShirtTV: Book Shirts, we discuss Kristin Kobes Du Mez on "Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation." Publisher's Description: Jesus and John Wayne is a sweeping, revisionist history of the last seventy-five years of white evangelicalism, revealing how evangelicals have worked to replace the Jesus of the Gospels with an idol of rugged masculinity and Christian nationalism―or in the words of one modern chaplain, with “a spir...

#DogShirtTV: Beverly Gage on "G-Man: J. Edgar Hoover and the Making of the American Century"

October 12, 2023 15:55 - 1 hour - 327 MB

A major new biography of J Edgar Hoover that draws from never-before-seen sources to create a groundbreaking portrait of a colossus who dominated half a century of American history and planted the seeds for much of today's conservative political landscape. We remember him as a bulldog--squat frame, bulging wide-set eyes, fearsome jowls--but in 1924, when he became director of the FBI, he had been the trim, dazzling wunderkind of the administrative state, buzzing with energy and big ideas fo...

#DogShirtTV: Will Saletan on "The Corruption of Lindsey Graham"

September 27, 2023 13:23 - 1 hour - 303 MB

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS IN BIG TROUBLE, and Lindsey Graham knew it. It was January 21, 2016, and the senator was taking questions at a press conference. A month earlier, he had abandoned his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. Now two men he despised, Donald Trump and Sen. Ted Cruz, were leading the race. Graham thought either of them, if nominated, would lose the general election. Choosing between them, he told reporters, was “like being shot or poisoned. What does it rea...

#DogShirtTV: Sean Mirski on "We May Dominate the World"

September 20, 2023 17:54 - 1 hour - 330 MB

In the inaugural episode of #DogShirtTV: Book Talk, we discuss Sean Mirski's new book, "We May Dominate the World: Ambition, Anxiety, and the Rise of the American Colossus." Publisher's Description: What did it take for the United States to become a global superpower? The answer lies in a missing chapter of American foreign policy with stark lessons for today The cutthroat world of international politics has always been dominated by great powers. Yet no great power in the modern era has e...

Kashmir Hill on False Positives

August 25, 2022 16:53 - 59 minutes - 109 MB

Wherein Kashmir Hill joins to discuss her latest article on false positives in Google's automatic screening for child sexual abuse material. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Minna Ålander on Finland, Sweden, and NATO

August 24, 2022 14:08 - 1 hour - 110 MB

Streamed live on May 20, 2022 Wherein Minna Ålander, Research Assistant at Stiftung Wissenschaft und Politik, joins us to discuss Sweden, Finland, and NATO! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mike Pesca on High Conflict and Being Horrible

August 22, 2022 18:58 - 59 minutes - 108 MB

Wherein Mike Pesca joins us to discuss deescalating high conflict and how not to be a horrible person. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Where's the Lie, Matteo Carrabba?

August 19, 2022 20:53 - 1 hour - 116 MB

Wherein Matteo Carrabba plays "Where'e the Lie?" with a story about being kidnapped in Jordan. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dan Byman on the Buffalo Shooting

August 18, 2022 14:06 - 1 hour - 112 MB

Wherein, Dan Byman—author of "Spreading Hate: The Global Rise of White Supremacist Terrorism"—joins the show to talk about the shooting in Buffalo, New York. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Morel of the Story

June 08, 2022 00:22 - 55 minutes - 102 MB

Wherein we find out what happened on Kate and Scott's morel hunt, and we get an update on Ben's morel garden. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Scott Hershovitz Is Nasty, Brutish, & Short

June 05, 2022 17:46 - 59 minutes - 110 MB

Wherein Scott Hershovitz returns to the show to talk about his funny and tender new book: Nasty, Brutish, & Short! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Kate in DC Cheese Night

May 25, 2022 22:55 - 52 minutes - 96.1 MB

Kate is in Washington. It's Cheese Night. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sophia Yan is Not in China

May 22, 2022 23:31 - 1 hour - 126 MB

Wherein Sophia Yan is no longer in China and is in the greater Washington DC metropolitan area, and wherein she will be over at Chez Wittez for Scotch, she joins the show live and in person—and with a surprise friend! Will she take the hammock? Will she be in a dog shirt? Tune in to find out. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Del Harvey Talks Twitter

May 21, 2022 00:22 - 1 hour - 110 MB

Wherein Del Harvey, who worked to shape and run Twitter's content moderation policy for 13 years, joins us for a discussion of what she thinks about Elon Musk's purchase of the company and the future of online speech. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Eli Needs a Job

May 07, 2022 01:21 - 1 hour - 129 MB

Wherein Eli Sugarman joins Kate and a traveling Ben to discuss In Lieu of Employment. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Where's the Lie, Pulla?

May 05, 2022 00:26 - 1 hour - 110 MB

Wherein Paula joins Ben and Genevieve, regaling us with a yarn that hopefully doesn’t tie us all up in knots. Will you be able to tell if it’s true? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Kate & Scott Talk Muskman without Del Harvey

April 27, 2022 16:23 - 1 hour - 115 MB

Wherein we were supposed to be joined by the incredible Del Harvey, former VP of Trust & Safety at Twitter—where she worked for more than 13 years—to discuss what it takes to govern an online speech platform with global reach . . . but instead it's just Kate and Scott at the last minute to discuss Elon Musk's buy up of Twitter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Two New Books!

April 24, 2022 20:34 - 1 hour - 113 MB

Wherein Ben double-scheduled today's show, inviting both Alex Finley to discuss her new book and Dan Byman to discuss his new book, we do both! Byman and Finley talk about their new books, one funny, one really not! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jeff Kosseff is not Anonymous

April 23, 2022 14:56 - 1 hour - 112 MB

Wherein we are joined by Jeff Kosseff, associate professor of cybersecurity law at the United States Naval Academy's Cyber Science Department, to discuss anonymity's pros and cons (and hopefully, his book "The United States of Anonymous: How the First Amendment Shaped Online Speech"). Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Azmat Khan on Wartime Journalism

April 22, 2022 22:22 - 1 hour - 119 MB

Wherein we are joined by award-winning investigative journalist and Columbia Journalism professor Azmat Khan, whose frontline reporting from Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan has appeared in the New York Time's Magazine and shaped modern conflict journalism. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Special Military Operation Cheese Night

April 17, 2022 20:20 - 1 hour - 125 MB

Wherein a special military operation was conducted yesterday evening against the Russian embassy, it's time for Cheese Night! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Access & Accessibility with Blake Reid

April 15, 2022 14:29 - 1 hour - 111 MB

Wherein we are joined by Prof. Blake Reid of Colorado University Law School to discuss his clinical work on access and accessibility and his hot takes on ketchup! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Dreaming of a Seditious Conspiracy

April 13, 2022 17:41 - 1 hour - 116 MB

Wherein orange is the new black and seditious conspiracy is the new domestic terrorism, we are joined by conspiracy influencer Alan Rozenshtein to discuss how to make the most of your conspiring. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Vladislav Davidzon Burns His Russian Passport

April 10, 2022 16:18 - 1 hour - 121 MB

Wherein we are joined by the estimable Vladislav Davidzon, a Ukrainian-Russian dual national from Odessa who recently burned his Russian passport in public to protest the invasion of Ukraine. Davidzon is a nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Eurasia Center, based in France. Since 2018, he has served as a co-producer for a television series on the effects of the dissolution of the Soviet Union and, since 2012, also serves as the European culture correspondent for Tablet Magazine in...

@emptywheel v. @benjaminwittes

April 07, 2022 16:09 - 1 hour - 119 MB

Wherein the bout started on Twitter last week, it continues this evening on the show: Marcy Wheeler (aka @emptywheel) takes on Benjamin Wittes (aka @benjaminwittes), whom she took to task on Twitter for not reading the public record. GDF hosts the fight of the century.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Scott Hershovitz on Taylor Swift and Forgiveness

April 06, 2022 12:29 - 1 hour - 118 MB

Wherein we are joined by Prof. Scott Hershovitz to discuss Taylor Swift, the philosopher of forgiveness! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Let There Be Cheese

April 05, 2022 14:24 - 1 hour - 114 MB

Wherein Kate was on a train, Scott was trying to make a train, and Ben had COVID, a ragtag bunch of Greek Chorus youth take over the show... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Trump Investigation and the OLC with Pete Strzok

April 01, 2022 23:57 - 1 hour - 124 MB

Wherein Ben talks about his recent Lawfare article on the presidential clear statement rule and the investigation of Donald Trump—and about Marcy Wheeler's critique of it—and wherein Pete Strzok joins the conversation to talk about Marcy's thesis. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nicholson Price on Humans in the Loop

March 30, 2022 22:33 - 1 hour - 116 MB

Today on the show, Prof. Nicholson Price returns to discuss his forthcoming paper with Rebecca Crootof and Margot Kaminski: Humans in the Loop! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Two Freakin' Years!

March 27, 2022 21:37 - 1 hour - 124 MB

It's our second anniversary, and it's Cheese Night! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Christine Emba Rethinks Sex

March 24, 2022 14:33 - 1 hour - 122 MB

Wherein we are joined by Washington Post opinion writer Christine Emba to discuss her new book, "Rethinking Sex: A Provocation." Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Anthony Michael Kreiss on the Kentanji Brown Jackson Hearings

March 23, 2022 22:37 - 59 minutes - 109 MB

Wherein we discuss the historic Supreme Court confirmation hearings for Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson with Prof. Anthony Michael Kreiss.. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A Conversation on Sextortion and Deep Fakes

March 20, 2022 18:39 - 1 hour - 117 MB

Wherein Kate is doing some research on deep fakes, she decides to interview Ben about sextortion. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ancient Graffiti with Sarah Bond and Peter Keegan

March 17, 2022 20:45 - 56 minutes - 103 MB

Wherein we are joined by Sarah Bond and Peter Keegan to discuss ancient graffiti! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

#YachtWatch with Alex Finley

March 15, 2022 15:05 - 1 hour - 115 MB

Wherein Alex Finley has been doing #YachtWatch on Twitter and we've all been following slack-jawed, we have her on the show to chortle about it! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mike Pesca Has a Great Deal to Say

March 13, 2022 22:23 - 1 hour - 115 MB

Wherein Mike Pesca has a great deal to say, he joins the show to say some of it—and we end up in a conversation about a recent Gist monologue of his on cancel culture. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Paul Rosenzweig and Jonathan Rauch Drop in For Cheese Night

March 10, 2022 17:14 - 1 hour - 117 MB

Wherein it was supposed to be Cheese Night, Ben having failed to get a guest—but then Paul Rosenzweig and Jonathan Rauch show up! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nathaniel Lubin on Facebook's Superuser Problem

March 09, 2022 23:11 - 1 hour - 114 MB

Wherein we are joined by writer and researcher Nathaniel Lubin to discuss his piece in The Atlantic on Facebook's Superuser problem. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Lila Shapiro Talks Josh Whedon

March 05, 2022 20:19 - 1 hour - 122 MB

Wherein we are joined by writer Lila Shapiro to discuss her New York Magazine cover story on Buffy the Vampire Slayer's Joss Whedon! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Amanda Tyler on Ruth Bader Ginsburg and "Justice, Justice Thou Shalt Pursue"

March 03, 2022 22:25 - 1 hour - 118 MB

Wherein we are joined by Berkeley Law Professor Amanda Tyler to discuss her book co-authored with Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg: "Justice, Justice Thou Shalt Pursue." Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Doug Melamed Talks Antitrust

March 01, 2022 01:58 - 1 hour - 114 MB

Wherein we are joined by Stanford Law Professor Douglas Melamed to discuss antitrust and interoperability! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Constanze Stelzenmüller on WTF German Foreign Policy

February 26, 2022 18:04 - 1 hour - 117 MB

Wherein we are joined by Brookings Foreign Policy scholar Constanze Stelzenmüller to discuss Germany's hypercautious policy towards Russia. Constanze Stelzenmüller is an expert on German, European, and trans-Atlantic foreign and security policy and strategy. She is the inaugural holder of the Fritz Stern Chair on Germany and trans-Atlantic Relations in the Center on the United States and Europe at Brookings. From March 2020 to December 2020, she was a senior fellow in the Center on the Uni...

Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg on the History of Antisemitism

February 24, 2022 18:17 - 1 hour - 118 MB

Wherein we are joined by Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg, Scholar in Residence at the National Council of Jewish Women. Rabbi Ruttenberg is the author of eight books, most recently the forthcoming "On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World." Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Tim Miller and Toomas Ilves Talk Putin, Ukraine, and Republicans

February 22, 2022 14:00 - 1 hour - 113 MB

The former Estonian president and the former Republican talk about Russia-Ukraine tensions and the coming war. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Cheese Night with Babies!

February 21, 2022 13:23 - 1 hour - 113 MB

Cheese! Babies! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Alex Stamos on Ukraine and Cybersecurity

February 21, 2022 13:06 - 1 hour - 116 MB

Wherein Stanford Internet Observatory's Alex Stamos returns to discuss why Russia-Ukraine conflict has put the cybersecurity world at "DEFCON 2." Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Valentine's Day!

February 15, 2022 02:02 - 1 hour - 117 MB

Wherein Jon Shea returns for the Valentine's Day episode! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.