In For A Penny
149 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 1 year ago - ★★★★ - 1 ratingThe In For A Penny podcast is produced and presented by freelance personal finance journalist Marc Shoffman and The Orchard Practice financial planner Joshua Gerstler.
Each episode aims to address the confusing concepts and challenges from the world of business, finance and wider society.
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90 - Is now a good time to put your money into saving accounts?
June 26, 2023 14:36 - 24 minutes - 22.5 MBIn this episode, Josh and Marc chat about whether now is the right time to put you money into savings accounts Find out more about Josh and The Orchard Practice here - https://topfs.co.uk/ Find out more about Marc and Cavendish Content here - https://cavendishcontent.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on your podcast app. Instructions can be found here - https://topfs.co.uk/in-for-a-penny-podcast/ Thanks for listening! Support this show http://supporter.acast...
89 - Why you need a Financial Adviser (with Nick Lincoln)
April 14, 2023 12:58 - 36 minutes - 33.4 MBIn this episode, Josh and Marc chat with Nick Lincoln about why you need a Financial Adviser You can find out more about Nick here - https://www.v2vfp.co.uk/ Find out more about Josh and The Orchard Practice here - https://topfs.co.uk/ Find out more about Marc and Cavendish Content here - https://cavendishcontent.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on your podcast app. Instructions can be found here - https://topfs.co.uk/in-for-a-penny-podcast/ Thanks for l...
88 - How to become an ISA millionaire
March 20, 2023 06:45 - 24 minutes - 22.6 MBMarc & Josh discuss how much you would need to invest and how long it would take to build a tax-free Isa portfolio worth £1m. Should becoming an Isa millionaire be your main aim of investing? Find out more about Josh and The Orchard Practice here - https://topfs.co.uk/ Find out more about Marc and Cavendish Content here - https://cavendishcontent.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on your podcast app Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodc...
87 - Financial Wellness and How to Find It (An interview with Melanie Eusabe)
March 06, 2023 10:00 - 25 minutes - 23.6 MBIn this episode, Josh chats with Melanie Eusabe, author of Financial Wellness and How to Find It You can purchase her book here - https://amzn.eu/d/aKvxEro You can find out more about Melanie here - https://www.melanieeusebe.com/ Find out more about Josh and The Orchard Practice here - https://topfs.co.uk/ Find out more about Marc and Cavendish Content here - https://cavendishcontent.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on your podcast app Support this show...
86 - I Am Enough with Sheridan Stewart
February 16, 2023 14:01 - 29 minutes - 40.1 MBIn this episode, Josh chats with Sheridan Stewart, author of I Am Enough (The 90-day challenge to find contentment) You can purchase her book here - https://amzn.eu/d/e6RVHdI Find out more about Josh and The Orchard Practice here - https://topfs.co.uk/ Find out more about Marc and Cavendish Content here - https://cavendishcontent.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on your podcast app Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted...
85 - What's more important to you - price or value?
January 25, 2023 08:00 - 27 minutes - 25.6 MBIn this episode, Josh and Marc discuss whether price or value is more important Find out more about Josh and The Orchard Practice here - https://topfs.co.uk/ Find out more about Marc and Cavendish Content here - https://cavendishcontent.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on your podcast app Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
84 - Do journalists cause market panic
January 16, 2023 07:30 - 29 minutes - 26.6 MBIn this episode, Josh and Marc discuss whether journalists are to blame when there is panic in the market Find out more about Josh and The Orchard Practice here - https://topfs.co.uk/ Find out more about Marc and Cavendish Content here - https://cavendishcontent.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on your podcast app Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
83 - How the Chancellor's tax changes may impact you
December 20, 2022 07:00 - 30 minutes - 27.8 MBIn this episode, Josh and Marc discuss how Chancellor Jeremy Hunt's Autumn Statement tax allowance changes may impact you. Plus, what other radical tax changes could come next? Find out more about Josh and The Orchard Practice here - https://topfs.co.uk/ Find out more about Marc and Cavendish Content here - https://cavendishcontent.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on your podcast app Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Aca...
82 - Top 10 Money Lessons I Wish I Knew Sooner with Andy Hart
November 30, 2022 07:45 - 31 minutes - 29.2 MBIn this episode, Josh and fellow podcast host and Financial Adviser Andy Hart, discuss the top 10 money lessons they wish they knew sooner Find out more about Andy Hart here - https://www.andyhart.co/ Find out more about Josh and The Orchard Practice here - https://topfs.co.uk/ Find out more about Marc and Cavendish Content here - https://cavendishcontent.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on your podcast app Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapenn...
81 - What does the Chancellor do?
November 11, 2022 09:26 - 29 minutes - 26.7 MBMarc and Josh discuss the role of the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the options the Treasury has to balance the nation's books. Plus, the usual Arsenal football banter after Marc and his daughter took in a men's and women's game all in one day. Find out more about Josh and The Orchard Practice here - https://topfs.co.uk/ Find out more about Marc and Cavendish Content here - https://cavendishcontent.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on your podcast app Support th...
80 - Is now the right time to remortgage?
October 17, 2022 07:00 - 31 minutes - 28.6 MBAs mortgage rates are on the rise, Josh and Marc discuss whether now is the right time to remortgage Find out more about Josh and The Orchard Practice here - https://topfs.co.uk/ Find out more about Marc and Cavendish Content here - https://cavendishcontent.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on your podcast app Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
79 - An interview with Jamie Fiore Higgins (author of Bully Market)
October 06, 2022 06:00 - 30 minutes - 27.8 MBJosh chats with Jamie Fiore Higgins, author of Bully Market (My story of money and misogyny at Goldman Sachs) You can purchase her book here - https://amzn.to/3fzs6Tk You can find out more about Jamie here - https://jamiefiorehiggins.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on your podcast app Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
78 - Why behaviour is key to becoming financially successful
September 23, 2022 08:01 - 40 minutes - 37.5 MBMarc and Josh meet fellow financial planning podcaster Andy Hart of Maven Adviser to discuss the concept of Humans Under Management. What is humans under management? How does it work for financial planners and their clients? How does it differ from traditional financial planning? Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
77 - Is it time to reject inflation-linked premium increases?
August 26, 2022 09:26 - 22 minutes - 20.4 MBLife, critical illness and income protection policyholders can increase their premiums with inflation each year to ensure their cover keeps up with the cost of living. Marc & Josh discuss if this is still worth doing as inflation hits double figures and other bills soar. Plus, Daleks appear to invade Marc's audio! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
76 - Is now a good time to invest?
July 29, 2022 09:02 - 28 minutes - 26.2 MBAmid volatile stock markets and an uncertain political and economic environment, Marc & Josh discuss if now is a good time to invest. Why time in the market is more important than timing Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
75 - Call waiting! How financial brands can improve customer service
June 21, 2022 07:53 - 21 minutes - 20.1 MBMarc and Josh discuss how financial services companies are still using the pandemic as an excuse for reduce customer service. How can customer service be improved? Plus, the rudest road names in the UK and their impact on property prices! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
74 - How mortgage downvaluations could stifle sales
May 19, 2022 08:03 - 21 minutes - 20 MBMarc & Josh discuss the issue of mortgage downvaluations in the housing market. What is a downvaluation Why would a lender downvalue a property What should a buyer or seller do if a property is downvalued Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
73 - Joint accounts: Should couples pool their finances?
April 12, 2022 09:37 - 29 minutes - 27.2 MBMarc & Josh discuss the benefits of couples having a joint bank account and how it can help with budgeting, saving and investing. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
72 - Risk versus volatility: Which of these, if any, should concern investors most?
March 29, 2022 08:40 - 33 minutes - 30.2 MBMarc and Josh discuss definitions of risk and volatility in light of Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the impact on the stockmarkets. How concerned should investors be? Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
71 - How to navigate the cost of living crisis
March 08, 2022 08:47 - 26 minutes - 24.1 MBFrom interest rate rises to energy bill hikes, Marc and Josh discuss how to cope with the rising cost of living. - The bills you can still shop around for. - The expenses you may have to cut and the ones you should keep. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
70 - Many happy returns? The top performing assets of 2021
February 22, 2022 09:11 - 24 minutes - 22.8 MBMarc and Josh discuss how various types of investments performed in 2021 and why it may or may not actually matter for your portfolio. Plus, have you ever been ambushed by chocolate cake? Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
69 - Should unvaccinated people pay higher insurance premiums?
February 01, 2022 09:27 - 24 minutes - 22.2 MBMarc & Josh discuss whether life and health insurers could start charging higher premiums for unvaccinated policyholders. Plus, should you ask a business contact if they are vaccinated before a face-to-face meeting? Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
68- How a savings challenge could help you manage your money better in 2022
January 18, 2022 09:03 - 26 minutes - 24.4 MBMarc and Josh analyse the best savings challenges and how they can help you put money aside in a fun and effective way. What is a savings challenge? How do they work? Are they worth the effort? Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
68 - How a savings challenge could help you manage your money better in 2022
January 18, 2022 09:03 - 26 minutes - 24.4 MBMarc and Josh analyse the best savings challenges and how they can help you put money aside in a fun and effective way. What is a savings challenge? How do they work? Are they worth the effort? Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
67 - How should your pension contributions be invested?
January 04, 2022 07:07 - 28 minutes - 26.5 MBMarc and Josh discuss how to decide your pension investment strategy and why it is important to look beyond the default fund. Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
66- How a financial plan and planner can help you
December 20, 2021 21:14 - 30 minutes - 27.7 MBMarc & Josh discuss the benefits of annual planning meetings and how it demonstrates the role of a financial planner. What is the point of annual planning meetings The benefits of a financial plan What happens during a planning meeting Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
65 - What an interest rate rise could mean for your money
December 08, 2021 09:51 - 27 minutes - 25.1 MBAs inflation rises and the Bank of England considers increasing interest rates, Marc & Josh discuss what this could mean for your finances. Why do interest rates need to rise? Who are the winners and losers from an interest rate rise? Why it may be too soon for a rate hike Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more in...
64 - How to live and invest sustainably, with Prudential
November 24, 2021 16:20 - 26 minutes - 23.9 MBMarc & Josh discuss how to live and invest sustainably with Prudential’s head of business development Vince Smith-Hughes. How do you define sustainability? What are the financial barriers to sustainable living and investing? Is sustainable investing too much of a marketing term? Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for m...
64 - How to live and invest sustainably
November 16, 2021 08:28 - 26 minutes - 23.9 MBMarc & Josh discuss how to live and invest sustainably with Prudential’s head of business development Vince Smith-Hughes. How do you define sustainability? What are the financial barriers to sustainable living and investing? Is sustainable investing too much of a marketing term? Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-ou...
63 - How to navigate the energy market crisis
November 02, 2021 08:45 - 26 minutes - 23.9 MBThe energy supply crisis is leaving millions of households with more expensive gas and electricity bills. Marc and Josh discuss the impact of rising energy prices as well as winter beards and award ceremonies. Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
62 - How a fund manager invests your money
October 19, 2021 08:11 - 31 minutes - 28.9 MBMarc and Josh meet Ben Russon, vice president and portfolio manager at Franklin Templeton Fund Management. Find out how Russon, lead manager on the Franklin UK Opportunities Fund and co-manager on the Franklin UK Managers' Focus Fund, approaches buying and selling UK equities and the benefits of active management. Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Host...
61 - Is life insurance a pact with death and how should you pay for it?
August 23, 2021 18:00 - 33 minutes - 30.9 MBMarc and Josh discuss why it's worth taking out life insurance and address Sunday newspaper suggestions that the product is a pact with death. What is the difference between term and whole of life cover How do you pay for life insurance? Should commission be scrapped? How to not get caught out by the 'pingdemic' Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on...
Is life insurance a pact with death and how should you pay for it?
August 23, 2021 18:00 - 33 minutes - 30.9 MBMarc and Josh discuss why it's worth taking out life insurance and address Sunday newspaper suggestions that the product is a pact with death. What is the difference between term and whole of life cover How do you pay for life insurance? Should commission be scrapped? How to not get caught out by the 'pingdemic' Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. See acast...
60 - How to manage your emotions when managing your money
July 26, 2021 17:01 - 23 minutes - 21.3 MBMarc and Josh discuss the mood of the nation amid England's run to the Euro 2020 final. Do you spend more when you are feeling positive? How important are your emotions when managing your money? Is it better to spend, save and invest when you are in a good or bad mood? Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more inform...
59 - Should you care about the Sunday Times Rich List?
July 07, 2021 11:25 - 25 minutes - 23.2 MBMarc and Josh discuss what the latest Sunday Times Rich List tells us about society. Should you aspire to get on the Rich List? Does the Rich List matter? What would you spend your wealth on if you made the Rich List? How do you define wealth? What is the point of wealth? Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/inforapennypodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more i...
58- Is your spending worthwhile or worthless?
June 29, 2021 07:45 - 30 minutes - 28.1 MBFrom gym memberships to football season tickets, your bank account may be full of direct debits and money transfers that you make out of habit. Marc and Josh discuss how to identify essential and non-essential spending. Plus, should football season tickets be cheaper if the team is playing badly! Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Do you have a topic you would like Marc & Josh to discuss? You can get in touch with any comme...
58 - Is your spending worthwhile or worthless?
June 29, 2021 07:45 - 30 minutes - 28.1 MBFrom gym memberships to football season tickets, your bank account may be full of direct debits and money transfers that you make out of habit. Marc and Josh discuss how to identify essential and non-essential spending. Plus, should football season tickets be cheaper if the team is playing badly! Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Do you have a topic you would like Marc & Josh to discuss? You can get in touch with any comme...
57 - Savvy savers: How to use your lockdown savings
June 08, 2021 08:20 - 21 minutes - 19.3 MBMarc and Josh discuss what households should do with the £238bn of cash savings built up during lockdown. How to start saving? What is the best way to save? Is it better to save or invest? Should you start spending once lockdown eases? Why cryptos aren't a viable way to save. Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donation! Do you have a topic you would like Marc & Josh to discuss? You can get in touch with any comments / feedback via...
56 - How do you invest yours? Why you should consider active fund management
May 25, 2021 10:51 - 38 minutes - 35.6 MBMarc and Josh meet Omnis Investments client portfolio manager Rohit Vaswani to discuss how active management can boost your portfolio and why you should avoid social media tipsters and stick with regulated funds. What is active management? How do you know if your fund is performing well? Is there such thing as a star fund manager? Why social media isn't a good place to get financial advice Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donatio...
How do you invest yours? Why you should consider active fund management
May 25, 2021 10:51 - 38 minutes - 35.6 MBMarc and Josh meet Omnis Investments client portfolio manager Rohit Vaswani to discuss how active management can boost your portfolio and why you should avoid social media tipsters and stick with regulated funds. What is active management? How do you know if your fund is performing well? Is there such thing as a star fund manager? Why social media isn't a good place to get financial advice Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donatio...
56- How do you invest yours? Why you should consider active fund management
May 25, 2021 10:51 - 38 minutes - 35.6 MBMarc and Josh meet Omnis Investments client portfolio manager Rohit Vaswani to discuss how active management can boost your portfolio and why you should avoid social media tipsters and stick with regulated funds. What is active management? How do you know if your fund is performing well? Is there such thing as a star fund manager? Why social media isn't a good place to get financial advice Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donatio...
55 - Karla Edwards aka The Protection Parent
May 11, 2021 09:21 - 22 minutes - 20.5 MBMarc and Josh meet protection specialist Karla Edwards to discuss how she uses Instagram and TikTok to engage with people about the importance of insurance. Why do you need insurance? The importance of paying your premiums even in tough times. Do you need insurance if you aren't married or don't have kids? Why you should consider insurance as soon as you are pregnant. Links: The Protection Parent The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Support our show with a donatio...
54- Going solo! What to consider when becoming self-employed
April 27, 2021 07:25 - 32 minutes - 29.5 MBMarc and Josh discuss why they quit the rate race to manage their own businesses and the main financial factors to consider. Plus, Josh gets his first post-lockdown haircut! Relax and enjoy the words of wisdom (and laughter) from Marc Shoffman & Joshua Gerstler - hosts of the UK’s funniest personal finance podcast. Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Do you have a topic you would like Marc & Josh to discuss? You can get in touch with any comments / feedback ...
54 - Going solo! What to consider when becoming self-employed
April 27, 2021 07:25 - 32 minutes - 29.5 MBMarc and Josh discuss why they quit the rate race to manage their own businesses and the main financial factors to consider. Plus, Josh gets his first post-lockdown haircut! Relax and enjoy the words of wisdom (and laughter) from Marc Shoffman & Joshua Gerstler - hosts of the UK’s funniest personal finance podcast. Links: The Orchard Practice Cavendish Content Leave a review! Do you have a topic you would like Marc & Josh to discuss? You can get in touch with any comments / feedback ...
53 - WHAT ARE SHARES AND DIVIDENDS
April 13, 2021 06:30 - 18 minutes - 21.7 MBOne of the main aims of investing is to grow your money but you can also earn extra through dividends without having to invest more of your hard-earned cash. In this episode of the In For a Penny personal finance podcast, Marc & Josh discuss the basics of shares and dividends, including: What is share? What is a dividend? How does a dividend help grow your investments? How many stockmarket investing jokes can Marc make in one episode? Relax and enjoy the words of wisdom (and laughter) ...
52 - HOW PENSIONS ARE TAXED
March 23, 2021 10:17 - 23 minutes - 23.9 MBFrom pension tax relief to annual and lifetime allowances, Marc and Josh discuss everything you need to know about how your retirement savings are taxed. What is tax relief and how it boosts your pension contributions How much can you put into a pension each year How pension withdrawals are taxed and how you can get 25% of your pot tax-free! Relax and enjoy the words of wisdom (and laughter) from Marc Shoffman & Joshua Gerstler - hosts of one of the UK’s funniest personal finance podcast...
51 - BUDGET MARCH '21
March 12, 2021 13:37 - 34 minutes - 34.7 MBIn this episode of the In For a Penny personal finance podcast, Marc & Josh discuss Chancellor Rishi Sunak's budget, how he plans to balance the nation's finances and how it could affect you, including: Freezes to Income Tax thresholds Is a Corporation Tax rise fair? Why does the government need to balance the books? Relax and enjoy the words of wisdom (and laughter) from Marc Shoffman & Joshua Gerstler - hosts of the UK’s funniest personal finance podcast. Links: The Orchard Practice...
50 -Transfer market: Should your combine your workplace pensions?
December 04, 2020 15:57 - 26 minutes - 19.5 MBMarc and Josh discuss what to do with all those workplace pension pots you build up over your career. Is it always best to consolidate your pensions? What are the risks? How do you combine your company pensions? About us The In For A Penny podcast is produced and presented by freelance personal finance journalist Marc Shoffman and The Orchard Practice financial planner Joshua Gerstler. Each episode aims to address the confusing concepts and challenges from the world of business, financ...
Transfer market: Should your combine your workplace pensions?
December 04, 2020 15:57 - 26 minutes - 19.5 MBMarc and Josh discuss what to do with all those workplace pension pots you build up over your career. Is it always best to consolidate your pensions? What are the risks? How do you combine your company pensions? About us The In For A Penny podcast is produced and presented by freelance personal finance journalist Marc Shoffman and The Orchard Practice financial planner Joshua Gerstler. Each episode aims to address the confusing concepts and challenges from the world of business, financ...
49 - Furlough facts: The rights and responsibilities of employers and employees
November 13, 2020 16:51 - 34 minutes - 22.7 MBMarc and Josh spoke with Rebecca Fox, an employment lawyer at VWV in Watford about how to furlough fairly. The word furlough is also becoming more common after the government set up a coronavirus job retention scheme to help businesses retain staff during the uncertainty of the pandemic even if they have to temporarily close. Under the scheme, the government will pay a firm’s employees 80% of their current salary for hours not worked up to a maximum of £2,500. It will run up to the end of...