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In this episode I call my friend, Jonathan, and I tell him a joke.

Jonathan is the perfect person to know if you like hiking and being outdoors, and I love both of those things. He makes an audio zine called Queer Out Here, which explores the outdoors from queer perspectives, and I would love it even if we weren't friends. It's very good. Find out more about it and listen to issues here: https://www.queerouthere.com/

Jonathan has also given me my new favourite nickname, Joke-sie, which I am fully embracing.

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