Episode 3 | Show Notes


0:00 - 9:00 | Jon and Zay cover Broadway and Jon’s NYC exploits.

9:00 - 33:26 | Zay and Jon cover Zay’s responds to the theoretical haters. What if you’re you’re good enough to make it? What does success look like? What are Zay’s weaknesses as a director? Is there a difference between films and movies? Is it more important to make a critically or financially successful movie? Do you have to choose? How do you cover important issues in movies in a way that has staying power?

33:30 - The Mail Bag (and a little salute to Teddy Bronson)

35:00 - Where do ideas and inspiration come from?

37:05 - 42:10 - Zay recounts his wonderful experience at David Chang’s Restaurant, [Majordomo](https://www.majordomo.la/)

42:10 - 46:15 - Jon and Zay’s Adventures with the homeless (and not-homeless)

46:15 - 57:00 - Project update on Rollers / Zay’s almost got a casting director and he’s talking to producers (and more adventures with the homeless)

59:20 - Zay (who just started playing guitar) plays a horrible cover of “Take Me Home, Country Roads.” This is how the song is supposed to sound.





























Links Etc.


Rodgers and Hammerstein’s Carousel on Broadway | Website

“A Real Nice Clambake” from Carousel

The Play That Goes Wrong | Website

Hunter Gatherer | Director: Josh Locy

Trailer for the movieNew York Times ReviewWatch it online


Annihilation | Trailer

Monster Trucks | Trailer

"Friday" Music Video | Side note: the video has 123,120,758 views as of today’s date

A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole | Buy it on Amazon!

“HBO Must Get Bigger and Broader, Says Its New Overseer” | Read it on the New York Times

Barry on HBO | Watch the Trailer

Operation Midnight Climax | This is some crazy shit


Won’t You Be My Neighbor | Watch the Trailer

 

The David Chang Experience

Majordomo, Los Angeles | WebsiteMomofuku, New York | WebsiteThe Dave Chang Show Podcast | Website (although don’t listen to it because you should listen to I guess we’ll Do It That Way)Momofuku Cook Book | Buy it on Amazon

The Balthazar Cookbook | Buy it on Amazon

An excellent international organization that helps people with mental illness | Website

Harmony Korine | IMDB | Correction: The film is called Fight Harm | Wikipedia

Santa Sangre | IMDB

The Great Comet | Produced by Tara Sickmeier and others

Bruce Springsteen has been married for 27 years | "Bruce Springsteen and Patti Scialfa's Love Story Proves They Were Always Meant to be Together"




























Credits and Personal Links:


A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website

Produced and Edited by: Isaiah Smallman

Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf

Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs

Outro music: Composed and Recorded by Tom Paulus and Max Belz

Cover Art by: Nate Giordano


Show Website | ThatWay.fm

Show Twitter | @ThatWayPod

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