First, this was supposed to be a book report. It largely wasn’t.


Right out of the gate, we introduce our special guest, Jill (last name unknown to protect the guilty and innocent alike).



Then we hit some Bitcoin updates including updates from both Apple, PayPal, and the Bitcoin Miami conference.



This leads to a discussion on beer, why some cities have a great beer scenes, and others don‘t. We discuss an idea Nate has for a club and what makes for good nightlife scenes.


Then eventually we get to The Alchemy of Finance. Of course, this being Nathan, he brings it back to Bitcoin and other digressions.



With some help from Jill we actually get back to the book for a bit. 


This also leads to a discussion about one of our favorite topics, what the future might look like.



This leads to a discussion on ransomware, cyber terrorism, and the importance of CISA.


Then we get into how Luc is both younger and more adult than both Jill and Nate and whether Nate wants a family.



Then we get into a question that Jill’s fiancée had on aliens and we revisit the UFO episode for another possible scenario that is a hybrid of two we talked about in the previous episode.



This leads to a discussion the government used subterfuge in WWII and the discussion on subterfuge leads to whether we could do different jobs such as being a spy, whether spies are good people, and the different types of lying.



This leads to a conversation on honesty, full disclosure, and lies of omission in the context of dating. This goes into a larger conversation about dating.



Then it’s onto the real conspiracies around Jeffrey Epstein, why Anthony Fauci is Nate’s personal nemesis, Covid vaccines and how they impact mask wearing.



Also, please let us know if you’d like to hear from Jill once a quarter as she gives her female perspective on all of the things we got wrong. 


Book mentioned during the podcast: Bodyguard of Lies: The Extraordinary True Story Behind D-Day

by Anthony Cave Brown

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