First, we get into whether there are any winners in sword fight which segues into a long discussion on different books including The Book of Five Rings by Musashi, Musashi by Eiji Yoshikawa, Nate’s favorite book Travels by Michael Crichton, A Case of Need by Michael Crichton, On Writing by Stephen King, and Proof: The Science of Booze by Adam Rogers.


This leads to the creative benefits of beers and other strategies for increasing creativity which someone ends up with Luc pitching a gross business idea and then finally we get into a long conversation on architecture with a long discussion about Frank Lloyd Wright. This includes a diversion about movie-making in Albuquerque and various other diversions.



Somehow we get into the joys of indoor plumbing and the issues we have with sewage.



We then move onto a discussion on Apple and whether Nate should buy a new computer. And then we finish up with a quick warning about Sidewalk on Alexa products. Turn it off!



Lastly, Nate is doing his best to get Luc to watch Ted Lasso so we can discuss it before the season 2 premiere at the end of July. So if you haven't watched it yet and want to follow along during that discussion, make it your next show to binge-watch.

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