This week, Sophia and Maria consider what Title 42, a little-known provision of U.S. health law which the former Trump administration invoked to achieve its long-desired goal of shutting the border, is and how it has been carried out since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic. Later on in the episode, Wall Street Journal reporter Michelle Hackman joins them to discuss her observations on the policy, and how the immigration space has changed over the last 5 years.


Michelle Hackman is a reporter in The Wall Street Journal's Washington bureau, where she covers immigration policy and the Department of Homeland Security. Previously, she wrote about health and education policy. Michelle first joined the Journal in 2016 and is a graduate of Yale University.


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Hosted and Written by Sophia Houdaigui and Maria Castillo


Edited by Sophia Houdaigui


Music by Ian Yan

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