Hunting Matters
159 episodes - English - Latest episode: 3 months ago -Tradition. Conservation. Family. The Outdoors. It matters to you. It matters to us. This is “Hunting Matters”, presented by the Houston Safari Club Foundation (HSCF). With HSCF Executive Director Joe Betar. Join Joe as he engages in conversations with guests, from various backgrounds, that have a passion for hunting and conservation. Great discussions, news, hunting legislation and more! Listen and discover. "Hunting Matters".
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Heidi Lyn Rao
February 24, 2024 13:00 - 38 minutes - 35.6 MBHeidi Lyn Rao was hired by Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD) in 1998 and has recruited, trained, and retained volunteers, as the Hunter Education Specialist for Southeast Texas. In 2010 she also assumed the role as statewide Becoming an Outdoors-Woman (BOW) Coordinator. During her TPWD career, she developed many partnerships and organized many education & outreach events. She started “Take Me Outdoors Houston” in 2009, when the Texas Wildlife Expo ended, and brings this annual famil...
Chris Dorsey
February 17, 2024 13:00 - 39 minutes - 35.9 MBChris Dorsey has been called the 'brand-father' of outdoor television having helped create and launch almost 60 series in the outdoor genre and an equal number of series in mainstream television, including for such networks as ABC, Discovery Channel, History Channel, HGTV, Travel, DIY, ESPN, WGN America, National Geographic, Nat Geo Wild, Destination America, Oxygen, and all the outdoor networks. Dorsey formerly served as editor in chief of Sports Afield and Ducks Unlimited magazines, is the...
Sarah Hall And Dani Farris
February 03, 2024 13:00 - 39 minutes - 35.9 MBSarah Hall; Project and Events Manager Sarah focuses on planning and executing our fundraising events. Sarah is a product of the athletes we support, starting her shooting career in 4-H and then becoming a scholar-athlete with the University of Kentucky Rifle Team. Sarah has been with the Foundation for 6 years. Dani Farris; Marketing Manager Dani markets all the programs of MidwayUSA Foundation, from the website to social media, to digital and print advertising. Dani also works closely ...
Dakotah Richardson
January 20, 2024 13:00 - 39 minutes - 36 MBDakotah Richardson is the National Sales Manager for RC Cartridges. Dakotah is a former United States Olympic resident shotgun athlete, competing for Team USA Shooting, and a member of the 2013 World Cup Acapulco Team.
James Lofton
January 13, 2024 13:00 - 39 minutes - 36.2 MBJames Lofton has spent the last 25 years as an ambassador for the hunting and shooting sports. In addition to being a member of HSCF, he is a Benefactor Member of the NRA, a Life Member of the North American Hunting Club as well as a member of the Congressional Sportsman Foundation and Gun Owners of America, among others. He has a passion for introducing new hunters to our sport and preserving our hunting and gun rights. James is eager to put his skills and passion to work for the HSCF. Jame...
Michael Sabbeth
December 16, 2023 14:00 - 39 minutes - 35.9 MBMichael Sabbeth is a lawyer, lecturer, consultant and author. He lectures nationally and internationally on hunting and shooting ethics, rhetoric and the art of persuasion. Mr. Sabbeth consistently presents at International Hunter Education Association conferences, Texas Hunter Education Instructors Association and at major hunting and shooting conventions including Safari Club International, the Dallas Safari Club and the Namibia Professional Hunters Association. He writes for about one doz...
Dr. Ed Ashby
December 09, 2023 13:00 - 36 minutes - 33.6 MBDr. Ed Ashby, a legend in the archery hunting community for dedicating more than 27 years to the study of arrow performance and broadhead lethality on six continents. Thanks to Dr. Ashby and his crew, his Natal Study helped legalize archery hunting in South Africa. Many sub-Saharan countries followed suit. The Natal Study was the definitive document used to successfully lobby for bowhunting legalization. Dr. Ashby is also the co-founder of the Ashby Bowhunting Foundation, the leading global ...
Alfredo (Rick) Franco
December 02, 2023 13:00 - 39 minutes - 36.2 MBAlfredo (Rick) Franco is the Co-Founder of Four Branches Spirits Company. Rick is a U.S. Marine (Ret.) with 20-plus years of leadership, organizational management, and entrepreneurial experience. Rick’s career has been extremely diverse, from being a graduate of the prestigious Virginia Military Institute and later a Marine Infantry Officer, to one of the first Anti-Terrorism/Force Protection contractors with Booz Allen, to a covert protective agent for the U.S. intelligence community with mo...
Corey Meyer
November 18, 2023 13:00 - 39 minutes - 35.9 MBCorey Meyer and his co-founder and long-time friend Charlie Pehrson started Steelhead Outdoors when they had children and wanted to store their firearms securely. They weren't satisfied with what they found on the market and decided to make their own safes. Meyer combines his natural ability and passion to create modular gun safes that firearms owners can take with them when they change residences. The durable safes can be passed down to the next generation. Corey draws upon his mechanical en...
Anthony Thomas of Thomas Cattle and Catering
November 11, 2023 13:00 - 38 minutes - 35.4 MBAs the old Lone Star saying goes, real-life cowboy and cattle rancher Anthony Thomas wasn’t born in Texas, but he got here as soon as he could. As a kid, he dreamed of being a rodeo cowboy in Texas, raising cattle and owning a ranch. Now that he’s here, the ‘Aussie-Texan’ is working on getting his fellow Texans to eat better beef. In 2020, Thomas found his award-winning professional rodeo career sidelined by the COVID-19 epidemic. The pro rodeo circuit was dormant while the pandemic surged...
Bill Stransky
October 28, 2023 12:00 - 38 minutes - 35.4 MBBill Stransky is the Executive Director of The Texas Rice Industry Coalition for the Environment (R.I.C.E.). The Texas Rice Industry Coalition for the Environment (R.I.C.E.) was formed in February 1995. Their mission is to build a coalition of interests to foster and strengthen relationships between the rice industry and the natural resources of our rice-producing area in Texas. R.I.C.E. has created, enhanced, and/or restored an estimated 15,000 acres of wetland habitat and an additional 20,...
Hunting 101
October 07, 2023 12:00 - 39 minutes - 35.7 MBThis week Joe and Ramon sit down to start it all over with hunting 101. Ramon asks Joe all the questions from a novice hunter. Joe gets upset with Ramon and fires him. (That last part was a joke) But they do cover a lot of ground floor issues regarding hunting. If you're new to hunting or need a refresher course, this is the show for you.
Amanda M. Veals-Dutt PhD
September 30, 2023 12:00 - 39 minutes - 36.3 MBBlack Bears in Texas with Amanda M. Veals Dutt, PhD Amanda M. Veals Dutt, PhD, Carnivore Specialist and Research Scientist, Borderlands Research Institute, Sul Ross State University. Dr. Dutt is the Carnivore Specialist and post-doctoral Research Scientist at Borderlands Research Institute. Her research focuses on the spatial ecology and interspecific interactions between mammalian predators, such as black bears and mountain lions, and their prey. Her research in the Trans-Pecos aims to inf...
Dr. James Derr
September 23, 2023 12:00 - 39 minutes - 36.2 MBDr. Derr is a Professor of Veterinary Pathobiology and Genetics at Texas A&M University. He is the Director of the DNA Technologies Core Laboratory and served as the Chair of the Faculty of Genetics at Texas A&M University and the President of the Texas Genetics Society. For over 25 years, he has directed worldwide research projects in wildlife and livestock conservation genetics. This body of work has produced more than 75 scientific publications reporting original research on many different...
Gib Surles
September 16, 2023 12:00 - 39 minutes - 36.2 MBGib Surles is principal and founder of The Forrest Group, L.L.C., an estate management firm in Houston, Texas, that specializes in wealth transfer and business succession planning. Utilizing life insurance, his firm works with family-owned businesses and high net worth individuals in addressing problems common to the transfer of assets, lifestyles, and financial security to future generations. Gib graduated from Texas A & M University in 1985 with a B.B.A in Marketing and received his Maste...
Kyle Green
September 02, 2023 12:00 - 39 minutes - 36.3 MBKyle began his career in television as a fitness consultant for a local medical show, quickly rising through the ranks to become the Vice President. While producing many of his own shows, Kyle was nominated for 3 Emmys! Wanting to use his experience to promote his passion for the outdoors, he left the show to produce his own. Of the original creators of the show, Kyle has always been described as “The Passion”. His love for the outdoors developed while learning from his Dad on countless hunt...
Joe's Trip To Alaska
August 26, 2023 12:00 - 38 minutes - 35.4 MBHunting Matters co-hosts Ramon Robles and Joe Betar talk about Joe's upcoming trip to Afognak Island, Alaska in pursuit of Sitka blacktail deer, salmon and halibut. Joe will also discuss his plan to observe the Afognak Coastal Protection Project and Alaska's ecosystem and its recovery since the 1999 Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska's Prince WIlliam Sound.
Kile Jones
August 19, 2023 12:00 - 40 minutes - 36.6 MBKile Jones is the Director of Marketing for Apex Ammunition. Kyle leads the development and management of marketing initiatives for the company and works with the current advertising, communications, and social media teams. A lifelong hunter, Jones has been involved in the hunting and shooting industry for 15 years and was an Apex Ambassador before joining the company. Prior to that, he served as Marketing Specialist for Dive Bomb Industries where he assisted with product development and ma...
Jeff Garrett
August 05, 2023 12:00 - 39 minutes - 36.2 MBJeff Garrett is a Life Member of the Houston Safari Club Foundation. He has been a life-long avid Texas hunter since he was old enough to hold a gun and hit the dove field or sit in a deer stand with his father and grandfather. He has recently acquired mountain fever and has taken and/or scheduled several mountain hunts of late. Jeff is passionate about protecting hunting rights and is also a life member of several other hunting associations, including SCI, Wild Sheep Foundation, GSCO/Ovis, ...
Brian Anderson
July 22, 2023 12:00 - 39 minutes - 36.4 MBBrian Anderson aka “The Tick Terminator” has had a lifelong fascination with the little blood suckers we call the “tick.” His interest peaked about 10 years ago due to his wife’s continued fear of them and with several friends suffering from Lyme Disease. This began the intense search for preventative ways to keep the ticks off from us. He has spent countless hours investigating, studying, experimenting, and loves to share his findings with audiences across the country. He is now on a God ...
Dan Schultz
July 08, 2023 12:00 - 40 minutes - 37.3 MBDan Schultz is the Vice President of Sales & Marketing at Cuddeback. Prior to being at Cuddeback, Dan worked for WildComm as Vice President of Sales selling sponsorships for some of the larger hunting television shows including Crush with Lee & Tiffany, Whitetail Freaks, Hunt Masters, and others. Dan lives in Wisconsin and loves to hunt and fish.
Mark Olis
July 01, 2023 12:00 - 39 minutes - 36 MBMark Olis is the Content Marketing Manager for Moultrie Mobile. Mark grew up in the deep South hunting small game before eventually advancing to chasing deer and turkeys throughout the hills, hollows, and swamps of Alabama. After graduating from Auburn University with a degree in Journalism, he spent the next thirteen years in the outdoor industry working as an editor on numerous outdoor hunting titles (Whitetail Journal, Predator Xtreme, Southern Sporting Journal, Bowhunting World and more)...
Danny Shaw
June 24, 2023 12:00 - 39 minutes - 36.2 MBHaving spent 33 years as a game warden for Texas Parks and Wildlife, Danny has had the opportunity to serve Texans. Conservation of our natural resources has been his focus both professionally and personally. He and his wife Elaine have raised four daughters and one son. Danny had the privilege throughout his career to hold many positions within the Law Enforcement division. He began his career in 1986 as a field game warden in Port Isabel and completed the final leg as Lieutenant Colonel (D...
Kevin Ormston
June 17, 2023 12:00 - 39 minutes - 36.3 MBKevin Ormston has been a member and active volunteer of HSC since 2008, and a Life Member in 2012. He has served on the HSC Board from 2011-2015, was 2015 Convention Chairman “Where the Wild Things Are”, he was on the HSC Finance Committee from 2011 to 2016, Membership Chairman from 2011 to 2014, Membership Committee member from 2009 to 2010, HSC Silent Auction Committee member in 2012 and Shoot For The Troops Committee member in 2012 and 2013. Kevin served as President of Houston Safari Clu...
Hunting Matters Goes To The Movies
June 10, 2023 12:00 - 39 minutes - 36.2 MBThis week Joe and Ramon discuss the best movies about hunting and fishing. Also they discuss which movies are on repeat while in camp.
Nick Skally
June 03, 2023 12:00 - 40 minutes - 36.9 MBNick Skally- Vice President of Marketing and E-Commerce FORLOH, a new premium, technical hunting, fishing, and outdoor apparel brand with apparel that is 100% made in the U.S.A. FORLOH, in its 3rd year of business, has two flagship stores in Whitefish, Montana, and Austin, Texas.
Edward J. Hudson
May 27, 2023 12:00 - 40 minutes - 36.9 MBEdward J. Hudson has traveled the world since childhood and recently decided to combine his love of nature, hunting, and international travel. During his childhood, Ed remembers stories of how there used to be more deer, more sheep, and more game. He grew tired of these stories and became an avid wildlife conservationist because of stories from the past like these. Since 2017, Ed has hunted the rainforest and savanna of Cameroon, the Pamir Mountains of Tajikistan, the Hindu-Kush and Karakoram...
Curt Melcher
May 13, 2023 12:00 - 41 minutes - 37.8 MBCurt Melcher is the Director of the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife. Curt is a native Oregonian, who graduated from the University of Oregon with a B.S. degree in Biology. He began his career with the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife as a temporary employee in 1985. During his time at the Department, he has represented the State of Oregon in numerous regional management forums, including the Pacific Fishery Management Council, Klamath Fishery Management Council, and Pacific Salmo...
Chase Glenn
May 06, 2023 14:00 - 42 minutes - 58.6 MBChase Glenn is the Director of Business Development for SilencerCo and has been with the company for two years. He oversees all of SilencerCo’s strategic relationships, brand representation, and development of new Licensing and OEM opportunities. Prior to SilencerCo, Chase spent 15 years in the healthcare industry overseeing program expansion, strategic planning, referral relations, and executive-level mergers and acquisitions. He also oversaw the creation of one of the first nationally reco...
Eydin Hansen
April 29, 2023 11:55 - 40 minutes - 36.9 MBEydin Hansen is an outdoor enthusiast from Texas. He's been shooting air guns since he was five years old and is currently on the pro staff with Umarex Airguns. Eydin has also been cast as a member of American Airgunner TV. He competed in the Pyramyd Air Cup in 2019 and made the finals in the benchrest competition with a Umarex Gauntlet. His greatest achievement as an air gunner is “introducing people to air gunning and using them to hunt wild game ethically”. Eydin retired from the United ...
Wesley Newman
April 22, 2023 12:00 - 39 minutes - 35.7 MBWesley Newman is the Coastal Prairie Conservancy’s Conservation Director. He is responsible for management and operations of protected lands including overseeing wildlife management and agricultural activities on Coastal Prairie Conservancy holdings, coordinating wetlands mitigation projects, and preparing biological assessments on prospective properties. Mr. Newman received a Master of Science in Rangeland Ecology and Management (1998) and a Bachelor of Science in Range Science (1990), both...
Mike Swartzentruber
April 15, 2023 12:00 - 40 minutes - 36.9 MBMike Swartzentruber is the co-founder of Hunter’s Blend Coffee. Mike grew up on a small farm in Iowa and has always loved the outdoors. When Mike was thirteen years old, his brother-in-law Ken came into their family. Ken was an avid outdoorsman and introduced Mike to trapping. Mike never hunted much until about ten years ago when his son took up archery as a middle school student. He took his son for lessons and instantly became enamored with archery. He has been bowhunting ever since. Mik...
Brian Murphy
April 08, 2023 12:00 - 40 minutes - 36.9 MBBrian Murphy is the V.P. of Strategic Partnerships at HuntStand, the largest and most widely used hunting and land management app in North America. Brian has earned several honors including the National Conservation Award from the Australian Deer Association, the E.L. Cheatum Wildlife Excellence Award from The University of Georgia and being named one of Outdoor Life’s Top 25 Conservationists in the United States in 2011. Brian also is a prolific speaker and writer. He has conducted over 800...
Christian Hogg
April 01, 2023 12:00 - 40 minutes - 37 MBChristian Hogg is the Director of Marketing for Fiocchi of America and Baschieri & Pellagri. Christian has been involved with the outdoor industry since 2008, having previously served as the Director of Marketing at Remington Arms Company. Christina will discuss what is new with Fiocchi Ammunition and Baschieri & Pellagri shotshell ammunition. Fiocchi was founded in 1876 in Lecco, Italy, and has been producing high-quality ammunition ever since. The tradition continues at Fiocchi's Ozark, Mi...
Mike Slinkard
March 25, 2023 12:00 - 41 minutes - 38 MBMike Slinkard is the President of HECS, LLC. He is also a lifelong bowhunter, former professional archery shooter, and full-time entrepreneur who has started several successful businesses in the hunting and outdoor industry. Born in 1965, Mike grew up shooting and hunting. His father had Mike shooting both bows and firearms at a very early age in fact Mike can’t even remember being taught how to shoot as he was too young. Mikes Grandfather and Uncle were cattle ranchers and Mike spent much of...
Peter Churchbourne
March 11, 2023 13:00 - 40 minutes - 36.7 MBPeter Churchbourne is an avid outdoorsman, conservationist, and steadfast advocate for all hunters. His passion is anything to do with the outdoors, but most important to him is hunting waterfowl with his labs, chasing turkeys, bow hunting, and introducing new people to the life outside. Peter is a certified NRA shotgun, pistol, and rifle instructor who enjoys competition shooting in USPSA, 3-Gun, and 2-Gun tournaments. Peter is currently the Director of the NRA Hunters’ Leadership Forum wher...
Mark Huelsing
March 04, 2023 13:00 - 40 minutes - 36.9 MBMark Huelsing is the Brand Manager of backcountry hunting pack manufacturer, Exo Mtn Gear and also the host of the Hunt Backcountry Podcast. Mark met Exo Mtn Gear co-founder Steve Speck through the hunting industry over 10 years ago. In the early days of Exo, Steve reached out to Mark for help with the technical aspects of getting the online portion of the business up and running. Over the years, Mark became involved with more areas of the business and eventually left his tech job to fully in...
Larry McCoy
February 25, 2023 13:00 - 40 minutes - 37.2 MBLarry McCoy is the Marketing & Media Director, for The Outdoor Group. Larry had a passion for the outdoors at an early age and cut his teeth in the industry behind the lens of a camera. His passion drove him to want to work even deeper within the outdoor space. He is currently the host of Respect The Game TV on Sportsman Channel. The Outdoor Group specializes in the development and manufacturing of premium quality archery and hunting equipment for the outdoor space. Established in 2012, The ...
Jason Wilson
February 11, 2023 13:00 - 38 minutes - 35.5 MBJason Wilson has been in the optics game for nearly 25 years. As a fifth generation Wyoming kid, a competitive shooter, Professional Ballistician, with a head full of ideas, an engineering mind, made dangerous with a graphic design/marketing degree. Jason opened the doors on Lucid Optics in 2009 with a single item and focus. Jason wanted to offer the absolute best quality in product at a price point everyone could afford. Lucid optics is proud to be different in the market today growing with...
Jake Roach
February 04, 2023 13:00 - 40 minutes - 37.3 MBQuietKat was founded in 2012 by twin brothers Jake & Justin Roach in Eagle, Colorado with a mission to design a better way to access the backcountry for hunters and anglers while replacing traditional ATVs and combustion-powered vehicles that were prohibited, too noisy, or simply didn't fit on narrow trails. Ten years later and QuietKat is proud to have joined the Vista Outdoor family of powerhouse brands including CampChef, CamelBak, Bushnell, Bell, Giro, Fox, Simms and more!
Joel Hodgdon
January 28, 2023 13:00 - 39 minutes - 36.4 MBA lifelong hunter and shooter, Joel Hodgdon serves as Remington Ammunition’s Marketing Director. With previous experience at Federal Ammunition as well as the Congressional Sportsmen’s Foundation, Joel started work in the hunting and shooting world with his family at Hodgdon Powder Company. Helping lead the charge to revitalize Big Green’s Ammunition factory in Lonoke, Arkansas, Joel, his wife Kelsey, and faithful bird dog Leo live in Little Rock, Arkansas. Joel is a life member and supporte...
HSCF 2023 Convention
January 14, 2023 13:00 - 40 minutes - 36.9 MBHunting Matters Co-Hosts Joe and Ramon discuss the upcoming 2023 Houston Safari Club Worldwide Hunting Expo & Convention. Ramon gets a crash course in what it takes to put on the annual HSCF convention and what to expect this year. The 2023 Houston Safari Club Worldwide Hunting Expo & Convention runs January 20-22 and is open to the public. Expo tickets available at the door. Banquet tickets may be purchased in advance at https://hscf.memberclicks.net/2023banquetregistration#!/. A 3-day e...
Will Coggin
January 07, 2023 13:00 - 39 minutes - 35.8 MBWill Coggin is managing director of the Center for Consumer Freedom, which fights radical animal rights, environmental, and other activists who lobby to take choices away from Americans. The Center operates HumaneWatch, a campaign to expose animal rights activists and educate the public about their agenda.
Tony A. Schoonen
December 17, 2022 13:00 - 41 minutes - 37.8 MBTony A. Schoonen is the Chief Executive Officer of the Boone and Crockett Club. Tony was born and raised in Butte, Montana. He grew up working on the Big Hole river for his father’s guide service, first shuttling vehicles and later as a river guide, putting himself through college. He and a couple of buddies started a production company, Stoney-Wolf Productions, and produced the first ever video on elk hunting. The company expanded rapidly, eventually producing 2,000 programs filmed on five ...
Annie Farrell
December 10, 2022 13:00 - 39 minutes - 36.5 MBAnnie Farrell is a District Biologist for the National Wild Turkey Federation. NWTF is a conservation non-profit dedicated to the conservation of the wild turkey and preservation of our hunting heritage. Farrell has been with NWTF since 2017 and oversees conservation program delivery in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and Nebraska. Prior to her career with NWTF, she worked various technician jobs with universities and consulting firms in Georgia, Wyoming, and Louisiana. She was born and raised in G...
Mark Hennelly
December 03, 2022 13:00 - 38 minutes - 35.5 MBMark Hennelly, Vice President of Advocacy for the California Waterfowl Association. Mark is a registered lobbyist and works primarily on legislative and regulatory issues that impact waterfowl, wetlands and hunting, including work before the State Legislature and California Fish and Game Commission. He has sponsored and helped pass several state laws and regulations affecting gamebird seasons and bag limits, water supplies for refuges and wildlife areas, hunting opportunity on private lands ...
Kerrie Cox Romero
November 26, 2022 13:00 - 39 minutes - 36.1 MBKerrie Cox Romero is a proud born and raised New Mexican. With a bachelor’s and master’s degree in Agricultural Economics from New Mexico State University, she cut her teeth in the corporate world as a Credit Analyst for Farm Credit of New Mexico and later as a Senior Analyst with the Bank of Texas. In 2013 she accepted an advocacy position in the outfitting industry as a lobbyist advocating hunting and fishing. She immediately fell in love with the industry. The 2023 legislative session wi...
Justin Dreibelbis
November 05, 2022 12:00 - 38 minutes - 35.4 MBJustin serves as the Chief Executive Officer for the Texas Wildlife Association (TWA). Founded in 1985, TWA represents the interests of private landowners and hunters and provides conservation education to youth and adults around the state. Justin is an avid hunter and angler who fell in love with the outdoors at an early age hunting the brush country of south Texas with his family. Before joining TWA, Justin spent seven years with the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department where he served as...
Ted Koch
October 29, 2022 12:00 - 42 minutes - 38.6 MBTed Koch is Executive Director of the North American Grouse Partnership. He received a B.S. in Biology from Southern Connecticut State University and an M.S. in Zoology from Idaho State University. He served as an endangered species biologist for the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service for 30 years, working on all kinds of plants and animals, including sage grouse and lesser prairie-chickens. Ted resides in Garden Valley, ID. North American Grouse Partnership is working with landowners to conserve ...
Dakotah Richardson
October 22, 2022 12:00 - 39 minutes - 36.2 MBDakotah Richardson is a sales professional who leads business development for the Beretta Gallery in Dallas, Texas. He is also a member of the Beretta Pro Staff. Dakotah is a former United States Olympic resident shotgun athlete, competing for Team USA Shooting, and a member of the 2013 World Cup Acapulco Team. He specializes in high value transactions and planning and executing hunting excursions for corporate leaders. He began his career with Beretta in 2015 and represents all 36 Beretta br...