Dr. Karen Schrier is an Associate Professor of Games/Interactive Media, Director of the Play Innovation Lab, and Director of the Games and Emerging Media program at Marist College. She joins us this week to talk about her belief in how games can be more than just escapist fantasies. The ability to tell gripping stories and effectively communicate ideas in a different medium is her focus and one Drew and Chris talk to her about in addition to her younger years playing games in an age where boys and girls played together on the same TV.