Environmental justice advocates have long been wary of cap and trade programs, like California’s carbon markets and the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative in NY, which are shown to be both ineffective and inequitably burden frontline communities. This is because such schemes allow polluting facilities, which are more likely to be located in frontline communities, to purchase allowances and offsets to evade caps and essentially pay to pollute. Raya Salter, founder of The Energy Justice Law and Policy Center and a member of the NYS Climate Action Council, discusses concerns with NY's developing cap-and-invest program with Mark Dunlea of Hudson Mohawk Magazine.