Lory lives in Paris, where COVID-19 shut down the city of lights as the pandemic ravaged Europe. Her mom lives in New York, which weeks after Paris went on lockdown would become the American epicenter. But Lori could not convince her mother to take, what she believed, were necessary precautions.

Our expert, Dr. Pam Thompson, is a psychologist, professional life coach and the author of "Surviving Mama,"  a book that focuses on mothers and adult daughters. She joins the podcast to break down what makes a successful mother-daughter relationship. She practices in Atlanta, Georgia. You can find out more about Dr. Thompson and her practice by visiting her website.

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