I had a long talk with my friend Bree Colingo last night after she texted me in a panic. Her son said something to her that I've feared my daughter might say to me one day: "I wish I was white." I asked Bree if she would come on the podcast and talk to me a bit about how she reacted and her feeling about the whole event. The conversation got deep.

I mentioned an organization called SURJ in this episode but I couldn't remember what the acronym stood for. It's Showing Up for Racial Justice.

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