Where we're winning the climate war, with Peter Newman

If you ever need a dose of optimism, you can always rely on Professor Peter Newman, a true legend of sustainability. The professor of sustainability at Curtin University joined editor of The Fifth Estate, Tina Perinotto, on the podcast this week and worked his usual hope-inspiring magic. He tells us why, despite what the federal government says, gas is over and done with. He tells us how there are 400,000 jobs in iron ore processing, using renewables, just waiting for us in the Pilbara. He takes us on a bird’s eye view of how big countries, such as China, are navigating the low energy transition. Interestingly, the politics are strangely familiar. Peter isn’t afraid to get philosophical – he’s worried about Africa’s sustainable shift out of poverty when the global community is turning inwards, reminding us that aid is not just charity, but rather an investment in fellow humans that ultimately benefits us all.