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When there’s an ESPN + Adrian Wojnarowski driven controversy, Amin Elhassan and I delight in our ability to discuss the issue unfettered. And so we addressed this whole Woj + Danny Hurley + Lakers mess, while also talking about, what else? A Bay Area meetup that included many brilliant rationalists, featuring some of their peculiarities. Oh ya, and also the Boston Celtics.

Topics include but aren’t limited to…

* Manifest Festival in Berkeley was such a unique setting. I run it all by a skeptical Amin

* What’s with the Effective Altruists and polyamory?

* Nate Silver as questions-besieged Nerd King

* Do I love the Boston Celtics? I explain my affection for this much maligned now heavy NBA Finals favorite

* Amin and I get into the absolutely bizarre Adrian Wojnarowski driven story where the Lakers seemed about to hire Danny Hurley (45 Minute Mark)

* Was this a leverage play for Hurley? Or a different kind of Woj driven conquest?

* How my being fired shaped Amin’s perception of the leading news breaker