Tara talks about the challenge of really seeing people and is joined by special guest Roger Hutchison. You can get a sneak peek at Roger's new book, Face: A Love Story, at: https://www.flipsnack.com/AE9A9F7EFB5/face-a-love-story.html References in this episode include Parker Palmer's Courage to Teach and Jewel's song lyric to the song One of Us.

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Pastor Tara Lamont Eastman is an Ordained Minister of Word & Sacrament in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. She was a contributing writer to the Collaborate Lutheran Student Bible and the Connect Sunday School curriculum, published by Sparkhouse.