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"Grief can often feel like being quarantined. Now, it’s even more so. Grieving is hard and isolating even at the best of times, and unfortunately, we are far from the best of times."


That's a quote from a piece written by Ambers guest today, Kevin Ringstaff founder of PetCloud - grief support services for pet loss. 


Now if you're not a pet owner, that's ok, this episode is focused on grief in general - the stigmas around it, the process, and ways to help ourselves and others. 


Kevin has been a student of grief for many years. He's been through several grief certification programs over the years and he's currently studying to be a Board Certified Hospital Chaplain. He spends his days talking about grief, creating activities and products around grief, and listening to the grief stories from people all over the country.


PetCloud is his first company, created to help those who are going through the loss of a pet. A direct link to this website will be below. He's currently seeking stories about pet loss for his upcoming podcast. If you're interested, you can connect with Kevin through his website or on social media. 


Kevins has another company, Grieving at Work, created to help teach management how to better support grieving employees in the workplace.


If you'd like to connect with him, and other podcast guests more intimately; join us in Ambers private Facebook group, The Dragonfly Connection


Visit his websites: petcloud.pet 


And, grievingatwork.com


Find him on Instagram and Facebook too!