While Westminster continues to swirl in chaos and the UK Government flails in search of stability and policy, politics in Wales carries on its largely stable path, stable in no small part to the Cooperation Agreement between the Welsh Labour Government and Plaid Cymru that has paved the way for key policy developments such as free school meals for an increasing number of children in Wales.

We speak with one of the key figures in making that Cooperation Agreement work, Cefin Campbell, MS for Mid and West Wales. As one of two Plaid Cymru 'Designated Members', Cefin has first-hand experience of working with Welsh Government in over 40 policy areas. We discuss this and, of course, the tumult at the far end of the M4, the challenges of working across parties in the Senedd and the future for Plaid Cymru.

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