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What if obstetrics had no competition?
 
Hear from Hermine Hayes-Kline, JD human rights attorney in Oregon, fighting the medical monopoly that seeks to eliminate midwifery. She joins hosts Augustine Colebrook, MA-MCHS & Kesha Chiappinelli, JD, IBCLC along with Becca Meek, RN, CNM FNP, a midwife in Oregon who once was the owner of a successful birth center as a colleague of Augustine when she too owned a birth center. Together these two midwives and two attorneys tackle the problems with for-profit obstetrics persecuting their competition and what pregnant people can do about it.

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