Our guest today is Dr Kathryn Gordon, clinical psychologist & author of The Suicidal Thoughts Workbook who returns to Heard Tell to once again talk mental health. Dr Katie responses and explains some recent mental health related headlines and news stories, narratives anout issies and treatments, and talks about what we know now about the COVID-era's affect on us all. Dr Gordon also talks some pop culture and the depiction of mental health in media, movies, and TV, highlighting She-Hulk, Stranger Things 4, House of the Dragon, and more.

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