Who handed Kim Kardashian her first million-dollar check?


The same guy who helped Kareem Abdul Jabar wipe out $25 million in debt.


Also the man who created the Golden Boy brand with Oscar de la Hoya.


Sports agent powerhouse Leonard Armato.


Along the way, he also transformed the way athletes (and Kardashians) are represented.


And he wasn't even an entrepreneur, just a kid who liked to play sports.


On this episode of Hawke Talk, Erik interviews Leonard about his journey from desperate, broke lawyer to leader of high-growth brands.


Listen in as Leonard and Erik chat about...


- How Leonard won his first contract with Ronnie Lott


- Getting 11 clients from the 49ers at the age of 25


- What Leonard learned from representing Shaq


- How Kim Kardashian go her first 15 million social media followers


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