Grrl on Grrl: intersectional and trans-inclusive music & interview show
40 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 5 years ago - ★★★★ - 19 ratingsGrrl on Grrl Podcast is a trans-inclusive and intersectional feminist show, featuring musicians from different genres. Listeners get to enjoy good convo, insights into the creative mind and community, and some great tunes picked by the guests themselves! Each guest adds their own perspective on the songwriting process and industry, along with personal stories... Plus you get to hear some great tunes, handpicked by the guests!
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Lys Guillorn on chronic illness, self-care, and putting out music anyway (GRRL034)
October 02, 2018 19:47 - 50.9 MBWelcome to Grrl on Grrl episode 34 with Lys Guillorn, a “solo artist with a band”. Lys and I recorded this all the way back in *last* July in 2017. Since then, she has released the split single “How to Move a Mountain” and more recently the song “Tinctoria”. (i’m sorry DID I JUST READ […]
Writer Carina Browder on writing about what actual inclusivity would look like in the music scene (GRRL033)
September 03, 2018 03:30 - 35.1 MBWelcome to Grrl on Grrl episode 33! In this episode, Carina Browder joined me over Skype……….. more than a year ago, to discuss writing about music, especially in the pop punk scene, talking shit about a *certain music publication* and offering less problematic ways to learn about music and embrace diversity. She is currently on […]
Lisa Mungo on Seattle, how to be new band, and inclusivity in metal (GRRL032)
February 11, 2018 14:22 - 38 MBWelcome to Grrl on Grrl episode 32, featuring Lisa Mungo of metal band He Whose Ox is Gored and hardcore band Fucked and Bound. Since the interview, Lisa's other band--who we talk about but not name in this episode--Fucked and Bound, announced the release of their first album Suffrage. We also talk about Lisa's expectations moving to Seattle and what she ultimately found there, how the city can foster the adventures of a newer band who's still learning the ropes, and then a bit on her respon...
BONUS: Emily Williams on her psychosexuality and exploring gender via science and engineering (GRRL031B)
January 28, 2018 14:36 - 12.9 MBWelcome to Grrl on Grrl's very first BONUS EPISODE, featuring deleted clips from Emily Williams' interview (which you can listen to here)! In this bonus episode, we'll talk about Emily's changing psychosexuality pre- and post-transition, how science can help or hinder the exploration of gender and sexuality, and general science talk.
Emily Williams of Axis Evil and Genderpunk.net on her trans experience and cultural appropriation (GRRL031)
January 28, 2018 14:34 - 32.5 MBEmily Williams and I talk about her music project Axis Evil--some weird time signature drum stuff, some weird guitar stuff, a sitar she bought in India, along with some very, very personal lyrics; navigating her trans-ness and her woman-ness thru the lenses of her science and engineering background at her blog Genderpunk.net; and being a token minority. The interview was recorded early 2017, when she had just recently released her album City of God. Since then, she's released a second album...
Danielle Leonard of Topshelf Records on running a house venue & DIY label (GRRL030)
January 15, 2018 06:38 - 38.9 MBI met Danielle at the SD Women Music Industry night last year and was intrigued with her work running a DIY record label in Savannah, Georgia where she attended SCAD. She now works for San Diego-based Topshelf Records. In this interview we talk about the ups and downs of running a house venue, her DIY label Bomb Shelter Records, and one way to foster safety in the music scene. A warning in relation to our discussion on a safe scene: we talk about PWR BTTM as one example of a band fighting f...
GRRL Interlude 005: Goodbye Polish, hello to you????, Felicia Williams, No Vacations, & podcast updates
September 04, 2017 07:31 - 12.4 MBHey folks! Thanks for your patience waiting for new interviews. For now, here's a mini-episode ("Interlude") with some podcast updates and some rad poetry from Felicia Williams and music from Polish and No Vacations.
GRRL029: Writing in the car, 90s influences, and Instagram marketing with Dee Clement of Lonely Bones
May 21, 2017 17:58 - 45.1 MBDee Clement joins me over Skype to talk about her new project Lonely Bones. Why can’t Dee write any love songs? Why does she insist on writing songs while driving? And what’s up with Instagram? We talk about those questions and more! Previously of Peachy Keene and Sullen Ray, Dee Clement has been playing music […]
GRRL028: Pay-to-play, promoting, and self-respect with Jenna of SoCal Indie Musicians
May 07, 2017 17:12 - 36.7 MBJenna Alonzo joined me over Skype to talk about her website SoCal Indie Musicians, which she uses as a platform to help herself and other bands promote themselves and book shows, either through her blog or one-on-one. Artists featured: Black Jacobins, The Black Heartthrobs, Frequency Within
GRRL026: Femme punk, misconceptions, and song inspiration, with the Fresh Brunettes
May 03, 2017 16:15 - 31.2 MBThis episode of Grrl on Grrl features Aleisha and Alexis of San Diego "femme punk" band The Fresh Brunettes. Their bassist Paul was also in the room, but didn't say much, as bassists are wont to do, and Fresh Brunettes' dog mascot Cosmo also graced us with his presence. Besides the amazing songs from Lisa Prank, Soft Lions, the Candelights, you'll hear Alexis and Aleisha talk about preconceived notions of what a guitarist or drummer should look like, some inspiration for their songs, and wha...
GRRL027: Depression & (the lack of) DIY spaces with Diana Regan
April 23, 2017 16:50 - 36.1 MBFor episode 27, I interviewed Oakland-based solo artist Diana Regan, who records and releases her music straight from her home! In the episode, we talk about the stories behind her songs and our process transposing and performing our songs in different instruments--in her case, ukulele to guitar; for me, ukulele to piano. We also touch on the Ghost Ship warehouse fire in Oakland last year, and how DIY spaces and communities like that saved Diana in her younger years. Not-so-fun fact: I orig...
GRRL025: Fiddling, contra dance, and gender at Smith College, with Anna Levitt of Crooked
April 12, 2017 16:20 - 60.4 MBWelcome to episode 25 of Grrl on Grrl with Anna Levitt of San Diego folk band Crooked. In this episode we talk about the differences between classical violin and fiddle, gender at Anna's alma mater Smith College and with babies, and the two different faces of her band Crooked. Disclaimer/corrections on the portion about Smith College: During the interview we talk about how trans men are included in Smith, but it looks like that is not the case any longer. If you look at their gender inclusio...
GRRL024: Streak of bad luck and sneaking off to play drums, with Stefanie of Caustic Casanova
March 13, 2017 23:21 - 44 MBStefanie joined me online after Caustic Casanova's 2016 tour to talk about their almost-comical bad luck streak during the first week of their tour, some tour tips, a bit about their record label Retro Futurist, and the difficult time and plain hard work she put in to recover from breaking *both* her wrists. I also bust out my trumpet playing story again, but this time to learn about Stefanie's slight subterfuge when it came to finally playing the drums in high school. Based in Washington D....
Interlude 004: trans-exclusion at the women’s march, podcast recs, and poetry from Felicia Williams
March 05, 2017 19:59 - 13.1 MBInterlude 004 is all about inclusivity/exclusivity: from podcasts that interview with inclusivity in mind to the global women's march in January. Plus, "Nvr Pass" by previous Grrl on Grrl guest Emma with her band She/Her/Hers, the poem "A Kind of Dying" by San Diego poet Felicia Williams, and a deleted interview clip featuring Liz of The Fictitious Dishes. Wanna submit your poetry and flash fiction to be featured in an Interlude episode? Shoot me an email! Don't forget to rate & review Grr...
GRRL023: unexpected double standards and “women in music” tropes, featuring the Fictitious Dishes
February 28, 2017 00:15 - 34.6 MBAll four members of the Fictitious Dishes (Taryn, Liz, Maggie, and Jacquie) join me on this episode of Grrl on Grrl to talk about whether or not to expect people to pay for their music, the possibilities of working with a producer, some conflicting messages from showgoers when Taryn's husband Hugh (of Slum Summer) filled in for Liz, and double standards and confusion in feminism and music. This is the first time I recorded more than 2 people on separate mics. It needs some work, but I defini...
GRRL Interludes 003: Music news, fake news, and a Backpage.com update
February 05, 2017 17:15 - 6.71 MBIn this quick episode, I give some updates on past Grrl on Grrl guests, including new albums and award nominations! Plus I plug a great podcast and a couple of articles about journalism and fake news, and a quick update on Backpage.com--which I talked about in Interlude Episode 001--and some organizations to check out in the wake up the shutdown. I also have the pleasure of talking over some ambient music created by Asher Mendel, because I felt weird having just my voice talking with no backg...
GRRL022: New York vs. LA, the hustle, and touring with Deftones and Refused featuring Sarah Quintero of Spotlights
January 15, 2017 17:24 - 48.3 MBHappy new year, folks, and welcome to episode #22 of Grrl on Grrl! In this episode, you'll hear Sarah Quintero of Spotlights, a sludgegaze band from New York. She and Mario, who you heard mentioned in a cut segment I included in one of the previous Interlude episode, met in San Diego, before moving to Brooklyn where they are now based. In summer of 2016, they toured with Refused and Deftones! You'll hear more about that in the interview. We also talk about their goals with growing the band a...
GRRL021: Songumentaries, reverse sexism?!, and going pro with Angie Walton of Duping the Public
December 04, 2016 17:46 - 28.3 MBIn this episode, Angie of Duping the Public and I talk about DTP's songumentary series--which documents their songwriting, production, and recording process, lifting women up in a male-dominated industry, how soul-sucking "going pro" in any industry can be, and the strides women have made in the music scene.
GRRL Interludes 002: Blackberry Tongues, War on Women, and Iceland’s wage gap protest
November 09, 2016 19:27 - 8.18 MBIn this Interlude, you get to listen to a song off Blackberry Tongues latest EP put out in July, hear about Icelandic women's protest about the unfair wage gap this past October, and a little bit about the Newsweek story on War on Women, which Grrl on Grrl listener Molly sent me. Let's build a Grrl on Grrl community! Start posting cool links, feminist resources, news stories, or anything else you'd think I or other Grrl on Grrl listeners will be interested. You can post them on our Facebook ...
GRRL020: Staying safe, queer, and slutty with Oakland band Spray Tan
October 18, 2016 22:06 - 26.1 MBFor episode 20, all three members of the self-proclaimed super queer, super slutty Oakland band Spray Tan--Andrea, Dorsey, and Lindsay--joined me online to talk about their experiences touring and staying safe as a queer band. We talk a bit about what came first--the punk or the queer?, how they determine when they play one of their more incendiary songs, and a bit of their songwriting process. (Hint: I wish I could be there.)
GRRL Interlude 001: feminist and music news featuring songs from Polish and Crooked
October 12, 2016 21:49 - 8.26 MBHere's the very first Grrl on Grrl Interlude episode! In this short episode, I cover Grrl on Grrl news, upcoming album releases in October, and quotes from articles regarding the recent arrest of the Backpage CEO. Listen below, and don't forget to check out the links to bands and articles mentioned as well.
GRRL019: Working with a record label, objectification, and insecurities with Megan Liscomb of Soft Lions
September 25, 2016 16:00 - 35 MBYear 2 of Grrl on Grrl continues with episode 19 featuring Megan Liscomb of San Diego band Soft Lions. In this episode, Megan and I talk about working with a record label, insecurities as a live musician, and differences in objectification depending on your role in the band. Soft Lions is also a frequent participant of Monica Mendoza's shows for GRRRL Independent Ladies, which you can hear more about on Monica's episode of Grrl on Grrl. Keep an ear out for news on their upcoming album to be ...
GRRL018: Harassment at shows and support liaisons with Hailey Wojcik
September 11, 2016 16:26 - 28.2 MBGrrl on Grrl Year Two officially begins with episode 18 featuring solo artist Hailey Wojcik. Stop-motion animator and pop rock extraordinaire, Hailey is a talented artist and musician, dedicated to improving her crafts. In this episode, we talk about Hailey's workflow for booking tours, unwanted physical contact at shows (and other male micro-aggressions), how we can address and fix them, along with plans for her upcoming tour and new album currently being recorded.
GRRL017: Spotify and nipple tape with Coco Tigler of The Fever
June 06, 2016 15:17 - 30.8 MBGrrl on Grrl goes INTERNATIONAL! Coco Tigler is one part of the German duo The Fever. She joined me over the phone on the last day of their spring US tour. As an American expat, she shares her views on the music scenes in Berlin and in the US, the differences of touring the US versus Europe, censorship (specifically in regards to women), and finances.
GRRL016: Borders and riot grrrl feat. Mónica Mendoza of Le Ra & GRRRL Independent Ladies
May 23, 2016 03:03 - 39.3 MBIn San Diego where I'm based, the question of what "to do" with the southern border is, in turns, ignored by many yet extremely relevant to others. For Mónica, who grew up in Tijuana, the border is a social construct that can bring people together. In this episode, we talk about using the border to connect musicians and artists from Tijuana, San Diego, and Los Angeles and the importance of listening to music in our own languages. And of course, we talk about her band Le Ra and her frontera o...
GRRL015: Band chemistry, creating a fanbase, and Asian American stereotypes featuring Tracie
May 01, 2016 15:48 - 24.6 MBFor episode 15, I interviewed Tracie Loo of Sir Coyler and His Asthmatic Band. Despite being based in Seattle, they recorded their upcoming EP at a San Diego studio, and I had a chance to see them play at local venue Tower Bar. Tracie joined me right before her flight back to Seattle. Good thing I live 5 minutes away from the airport! Tracie contributes, records, and plays as drummer with Sir Coyler & His Asthmatic Band. In this episode, we talk about the importance of band chemistry when it...
GRRL014: Recording for posterity and engaging showgoers and fans, featuring Dee Ray
April 03, 2016 19:37 - 33.3 MBIf you're listening to this podcast, then you are, at the very least, interested in music and at most, passionate. Grrl on Grrl's next guest is not only passionate, but she finds herself drawn to music, so much so that it would probably hurt without it. In this episode, I join Dee Ray in her house where we speak about the importance of recording your music as your personal history. We also talk about Dee's strategy for engaging showgoers and fans, and enjoying the hands-on approach to books ...
GRRL013: Musical collectives and learning from side projects, featuring Ali Coyle of Strangers Inc
March 14, 2016 23:08 - 34.6 MBAli Coyle is a Los Angeles and Orange County based musician who has played in countless bands including Sullen Ray--who you'll recognize as our intro song, and her old main project This Time With Feeling. Currently, she plays in NOBLES and Glasz, but her main project is Strangers Inc, which she does with her writing and production partner Javan Slagle. Ali joined me on Skype from Los Angeles, while we weathered the crazy storm that overtook southern California this past winter. We talk a lot...
GRRL012: safe spaces (or lack thereof) and the DIY scene, featuring Anastasia Rivera of The Weak Days
March 01, 2016 06:26 - 30.1 MBAnastasia Rivera is vocalist and keyboardist for pop punk/emo band The Weak Days based in Richmond, Virginia. The band describes themselves as "sing-along indie punk/pop... whatever that means." And the name fits, I think, especially with their dual and dueling vocals. Anastasia joins me over Skype. We talk a lot about being a girl in the DIY punk music scene in Richmond, battling hardcore kids (literally), and her strategy when it comes to avoiding uncomfortable situations at shows.
GRRL011: playing solo vs ensemble and physical products, featuring Carrie Gillespie Feller of Hexa
February 15, 2016 04:01 - 46.9 MBFor episode 11, Carrie Gillespie Feller invited me into her home for the interview. I have to admit, I would’ve stayed forever if only to cuddle with her cat some more… This episode is especially exciting for me because we talk a lot about her new project, Hexa and her debut EP Bata Motel that came out only last week. Although the album was recorded with other musicians, her live performance is just her, with a keyboard, loop pedal, microphone, and drum pad. It’s really amazing watching her ...
GRRL010: sexual assault & feminist organization Af3irm featuring Miah Spring
February 01, 2016 02:55 - 48.5 MBThe first time I met Miah Spring, she came up to me after a show and asked me to be on my podcast. Ah-wahh? Usually finding interviewees is like herding cats! But this is one cat that fell right into my lap purring. Okay, enough cat analogies. In this episode, you'll get to hear two songs performed by Miah live at a recent Flim Flam Revue show in San Diego in addition to a song she did in collaboration with Irate Productions. The song, "Sandy Still Speaks," is about Sandra Bland, who was arr...
GRRL009: music accessibility to all ages, queer/trans folks in San Diego and Portland, featuring Emma Grrrl of She/Her/Hers
January 17, 2016 15:23 - 35.7 MBEmma Grrrl is a trans musician who I contacted when she was still living in Portland. To make things more complicated for the interview process, she decided to pack up her car to play shows across the country. Now she's back in San Diego, ready to settle down... maybe. In this episode, we talk about her project She/Her/Hers and the importance of making music accessible to all ages (not just the 21+ crowd). Plus you'll get to hear some great artists from around the country.
GRRL008: identity, label, and goals featuring multi-instrumentalist and songwriter Lauren DeRose
November 29, 2015 14:53 - 44.3 MBGrrl on Grrl is back with episode 8, featuring San Diego musician Lauren DeRose. We talk a lot about feminism, identity, and labels, along with the usual music topics about community and different goals for different musicians. Lauren also picked a few great songs for you to listen to, so I hope you enjoy!
GRRL007: unique art & music in Los Angeles featuring Lauren Davis of Blackberry Tongues
November 08, 2015 14:59 - 47.6 MBLos Angeles band Blackberry Tongues traveled to San Diego this past summer where they proceeded to blow my mind with their ethereal music. From that night, I kept in contact with Lauren and I finally got the chance to interview her! In this episode, she teaches me what microtonal music is, the supportive and unique art and music scene in Los Angeles, and we play some positively different music than what has been on the podcast before. We also discuss whether it's better for a band or artist ...
GRRL006: songwriting discipline despite insecurities and a live performance featuring singer-songwriter Erin Bower
October 25, 2015 22:16For the latest episode, San Diego singer-songwriter Erin Bower sat with me in my bedroom where we indulged in sake and chatted about our insecurities and tips on playing live. This episode is especially unique because we tried a different format. Instead of featuring songs from other artists, I got a chance to record Erin's live set at local bar and venue Sycamore Den, so you'll be getting to hear a few of her songs interspersed throughout the interview.
GRRL005: extra scrutiny on stage, riot grrrl, and festivals featuring Lori Sokolowski of Gloomsday
October 11, 2015 13:30 - 54.8 MBFor episode 5, Lori and I got together in her living room to chat about the history of her earlier bands, being a woman on stage and being extra scrutinized because of it, and other topics about women in the music industry. She's a badass drummer for the two-piece band Gloomsday that she plays in with her boyfriend Justin and has always played bass and guitar in several other bands including Ladyparts and the Rosalyns--the latter got to play with The Julie Ruin and other rad women musicians ...
GRRL004: producing at home and music as a full-time job featuring Alex Capella of Bakkuda
September 27, 2015 16:07 - 49.2 MBAlex Capella of Bakkuda joins me for Grrl on Grrl's fourth episode! Bakkuda is a solo synth project, self-produced right from her bedroom. We talk about how her music is a full-time job, taking music classes (both good and bad), and the trendiness of vinyl and cassette.
GRRL003: media whitewashing and the New York music scene featuring Nina Herrera Merkur of My Own Confusion
September 13, 2015 16:22 - 52.2 MBFor episode 3, Nina of the bicoastal punk band My Own Confusion joined me over Skype to talk about the perils of gentrification, the difficulty of promoting shows in New York City, and whitewashing in the media. Thank you all in advance for sticking through some of the spotty sections of the interview. Unfortunately, a poor Internet connection on either or both ends of a Skype call definitely creates some turbulence throughout the episode!
GRRL002: the art of schmoozing and sass featuring Paloma Ceballos of Cochinas Locas
August 30, 2015 16:00 - 48.4 MBPaloma Ceballos writes, sings, and plays guitar for San Diego punk band Cochinas Locas. The trio of girls have been described as "unexpectedly good" (you'll hear more about that in the interview). With an energetic set and sassy attitude, their shows are always lively. In this episode, Paloma and I talk about our respective mothers' expectations of what good girls grow up to be, learning the necessary art of schmoozing and social media... and... slut rock?
GRRL001: ukuleles and the New Jersey music scene featuring Devon Moore of Fun While You Wait
August 16, 2015 15:00 - 46.5 MBDevon Moore sings and plays ukulele for Fun While You Wait, a three-piece out of New Jersey. In our premiere episode, we nerd out about ukuleles, gush excessively about Devon's song picks, and discuss earthquakes and the New Jersey music community.