In this era of division, name-calling, and blame, Mike Purdy argues that civility is more important than ever. He and I talk about historical presidential relationships, the current president, and what it will take to successfully oust Trump in the upcoming election, ideally while truly living into our values for equity, justice, and care, not only in our actions, but maybe especially in our words.

In this episode, presidential historian Mike Purdy joins Annie to talk about about civility in civic discourse and his new book, 101 Presidential Insults: What they Really Thought about Each Other and What It Means to Us.

Mike is the founder of presidentialhistory.com. He writes, speaks, and podcasts on presidential history and politics and has been interviewed by and quoted in a variety of national and international media outlets.

RECOMMENDED RESOURCES: 101 Presidential Insults The Soul of America The Case for Civility - and Why Our Future Depends on It FIND MIKE: Presidentialhistory.com Twitter Facebook Instagram

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I’m Annie Mesaros: a theologian, writer, spiritual guide, and host of this podcast. I offer coaching and facilitation for individuals and groups that are working to transform the world for good. 

Learn more, contact me, and stream the full archive of God Help Us at anniemesaros.com

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