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On this week’s episode of Rogue Creators, Bryan and Loren talk with Daniel Stafford and Robby Switzer, co-founders of Shopanova. Daniel and Robby were commercial fishermen in Alaska before settling down and creating one of the country’s most successful e-commerce growth agencies. Their clients’ return on ad spend is so high that Daniel and Robby are almost embarrassed to advertise it to prospective clients for fear that people might think they are lying. Tune in to hear about commercial fishing, being a by-application-only agency, creating a company culture where it is safe to fail, and potential ad videos that Daniel and Robby say cross the line! As always, thank you for listening!

Shownotes(0:30) Intro(5:54) Shopanova’s backstory(12:10) What sets Shopanova apart(16:49) Company culture(21:56) What you communicate with your ads(26:11) Advice for people starting their own business(31:37) Wrap up
LinksBryan FittinLoren LewisDaniel Stafford Robby Switzer  ShopanovaShopanova Instagram  Shopanova YouTube 
Quotes“I feel like if we could do it, knowing what we knew and building this out, like it should inspire anyone to be able to take those same steps and build a successful business.” (11:13)
“It’s not going to be about us showing up and trying to just take a flat retainer, take their money, even though they might be willing to pay for those services.  Maybe they need those services, but we really want to have this idea that we’re working together to create an awesome result together.”  (14:59)