The European Commission has set out a 35-point action plan to help transform business to a Circular Economy by 2030. In this podcast, we hear from Joanna Drake, deputy director-general for mobility and environment at the European Commission, and Francesca Passamonti, head of European regulatory and public affairs at Intesa Sanpaolo. Both discuss how the plan aims to support business into the positive change that will make Europe greener and more competitive.