Tell Me When to Go (Away from the Bay Area), with Kim-Mai Cutler

Starting this week, Matt and Liam explore how state housing policy affects different regions of California. This episode is devoted to the Bay Area, the epicenter of the state's housing woes. Featuring an avocado of the week where a city official tells Liam how he'll evade state law (2:40), how to interpret California poverty figures (6:30), and how the tiny Bay Area community of Brisbane is a microcosm of the housing mess (9:30). Then, an interview with the great Kim-Mai Cutler, former journalist with TechCrunch and author of the definitive Bay Area housing think piece (21:30).