Is California as we know it over? With the New York Times' Farhad Manjoo

Fires, blackouts, and soaring housing costs--has California officially reached a tipping point? Or are we simply recycling the same old tired doomsday tropes every time the state faces a collective challenge? On this episode of Gimme Shelter, Matt and Liam chat with New York Times columnist Farhad Manjoo about why the state's twin climate change and housing affordability problems make him pessimistic about the future.

First, an Avocado of the Fortnight poses a $10,000 question: How much would it take for you to leave the Bay? (4:30) Then a discussion of where Southern California decided to put 1.3 million new units of state-mandated housing, and why the decision was so surprising to Liam (7:30). Finally, a conversation about whether we should rebuild in high fire risk areas, followed by an interview with NYT op-ed columnist and fan of the pod Farhad Manjoo (33:00).

Farhad's Column: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/opinion/sunday/california-fires.html