In this episode, I speak with two incredible humans who are the colleagues at La Terza Coffee and the co-hosts of the The Third Place Podcast. David Gaines is the CEO and Chief Visionary for La Terza Coffee, a full-service coffee resource that provides the highest quality coffee to consumers, and equipment as well as education for restaurants and coffee shops. People come to La Terza to open a shop and have a passion for community, but encouraging people to gather around for a drink and stay for a healthy conversation can be a difficult business model. This was the catalyst for why David want to launch the Third Place Podcast, a way to explore the grey space where deeper connections are fostered.


Mary Allard has a degree in contemplative Psychology of Health & Healing, trained in authentic leadership styles. In addition to being the co-host of their podcast, she is the Business Development Director for La Terza Coffee, Founder of Five Element LLC, mentor for The Eating Disorder Foundation, and most recently, co-founder of the ELLEment movement, a platform designed to equip young females with their ability to identify, embrace, and articulate their unique experience in the world. 


We explore the grey space of dating i.e. the DTR conversation and how to avoid situationships, as well as how to best prepare for a difficult conversation or confrontation, and how to best break-up with someone. You can find them on IG here @thirdplacepodcast. 


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This episode was produced and edited by Liana Pavane.

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