Antwan Jenkins is working in youth choirs with a twist; some members of the choir need preaching to. We discuss the dynamics of leading a group of non-saved and faithful, and how that changes the congregation. Michael has a past with Evangelicals, which leads to a discussion of the value in ritual and the power of music in a service.


Antwan shares his experience leading services in different racial groups and how he tries to hold music-focussed events that cross subgenres of gospel music. The church needs a bigger body, and the only way to do that is cross divides.


Antwan also shares experience hearing God, the nature of the devil, the meaning of victory and how you can wear a story.


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