Welcome to another enlightening episode of our podcast! In this episode, we're thrilled to have Anne, a previous guest renowned for her insights, join us again. We delve into the critical topics of pornography, emotional betrayal, and the journey towards healing and safety. Whether you're grappling with these issues personally or seeking to understand them better, this discussion with Anne provides invaluable guidance.

Key Discussion Points:

1.Understanding Emotional and Psychological Safety: Anne emphasizes the importance of recognizing emotional and psychological abuse, which often precedes physical abuse. She explains how identifying and ensuring safety is the first step in the healing journey.

2.The Role of BTR in Providing Support: BTR focuses on helping women understand and achieve emotional safety, particularly in the context of sexual coercion and psychological manipulation. Anne discusses how BTR equips women with the knowledge and tools to navigate these challenging situations.

3.Recognizing and Addressing Unsafe Relationships: The discussion highlights how many victims of abuse might not perceive the dangers of non-physical forms of abuse. Anne illustrates this with the analogy of the frog in boiling water, explaining how gradual escalation can mask the severity of the situation.

4.Challenges in Seeking Help: Anne discusses the difficulties women face when seeking help from couple therapists or clergy, emphasizing that the focus often mistakenly remains on preserving the relationship rather than addressing the abuse.

5.Misconceptions About Abuse: A significant part of the conversation is dedicated to debunking common myths surrounding abuse, such as linking it to stress, shame, or childhood trauma. Anne clarifies that these are not justifications for abusive behavior.

6.Strategies for Recovery and Empowerment: The episode provides practical advice for women on how to start taking control of their situation, emphasizing gradual steps towards safety and recovery.

7.Inspirational Stories of Transformation: Anne shares powerful stories, including a pediatrician who overcame sexual coercion and abuse, illustrating the journey from realization to empowerment.


This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to understand the complexities of emotional and psychological abuse, especially in the context of pornography and betrayal. Anne's expertise and the powerful thoughts shared provide hope and guidance for those on the path to healing and empowerment.

Additional Resources:   • BTR.org for support and resources on emotional and psychological safety • BTR.org/LivingFree for workshops on safety strategies • BTR.org/Steps for steps to safety guidelines • ThePBTInstitute.com