The podcast tradition of foreign correspondents getting ejected from countries continues. For Gerry Shih, China Correspondent for the Washington Post, there was the added twist of getting kicked out during a global pandemic. On the eve of his reassignment as WaPo’s India bureau chief, Gerry looks back at his time covering China, which he is convinced is now a bigger story than ever.


Countries featured: China, Tajikistan, USA, Mongolia


Publications featured: Associated Press, Reuters, Washington Post, New York Times


Gerry discusses his childhood between California, China and Illinois (6:35), a wakeup call to the realities of journalism on his first day as an NYT intern (14:50), working in the Reuters’ Beijing Bureau alongside Jake (19:45), jumping to AP where he reported some of the biggest stories about Uyghur persecution (25:38), getting kicked out of China with a raft of other American correspondents (33:54), the challenges of reporting on China from the outside (41:37), the importance of digging into big stories and not letting go (49:37), his story finding a secret Chinese military base in Tajikistan (53:40), and the lightning round (1:03:28).


 


Here are links to some of the things we talked about:


Gerry’s story on China using U.S. computer chips to build weapons - https://wapo.st/3sMu5og


His scoop with a first look inside China’s Uyghur indoctrination camps - https://bit.ly/3ep7Uzc


Several of his other key Uyghur stories - https://bit.ly/32NuKuS


His story on a Chinese military outpost in Tajikistan - https://wapo.st/32M7Sfi


Fresh Air on NPR - https://n.pr/3xjc3gK


ESPN’s The Jump podcast - https://es.pn/2QXZ5UN


The Lowe Post NBA podcast - https://es.pn/2QWei8U


NYT story on Mexican woman who stalked her daughter’s killers - https://nyti.ms/3aUnbav


American Factory documentary on Netflix - https://bit.ly/2S2uaHG


Once Upon a Distant War book - https://amzn.to/3aCghq8


 


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