Author of the new book 'People without Power' Thomas Frank explains why everything you think you know about populism is wrong. [Note: language warning, a mild one]Host: Ebony Bennett, deputy director at the Australia Institute // @ebony_bennettGuests: Wayne Swan // @SwannyQLDBen Oquist // @BenOquistThomas Frank // @thomasfrank_Producer: Jennifer MaceyTheme music: Jonathan McFeat from Pulse and Thrum.

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