This episode features John Norris, a veteran music journalist who has written for a wide range of publications but is best known for his work at MTV News for two decades. In this conversation we talk about the trajectory of MTV News through his tenure there, discuss recent documentaries about Britney Spears and 6ix9ine, and get into issues of ageism in media. Along the way we digress into anecdotes of some of his firsthand experiences with Spears, Michael Jackson, Marilyn Manson, Courtney Love, Kurt Cobain, and Ariel Pink, as well as being the guy who had to go on TRL to break bad news to the youth of America.

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