We are delighted to be joined by Jo Heckett this week, calling in from Ireland to talk through poetry, spirituality, and looking for the point where the physical and divine meet. We also touch on the differences in upbringings within the a catholic Ireland and what we are experience in the US. 

To learn more about the topics we discussed in the intro, check out this intercept article here: https://theintercept.com/2020/09/14/ice-detention-center-nurse-whistleblower/