Kena and I continue our discussion around loss and grief - Kena grieves the loss of her husband and also the story in her head of how life is *supposed* to go. Does she want to be a widow or a vibrant 38-year old woman? This sparks our discussion around death and how Kena’s first hand experience with it motivates her choices for living. We also get into how we’re born with a magic or spirit that is always within us but we agree that our culture stifles it and we both share a strong desire to protect this magic in our kids. Kena and I are both on a mission to empower women to give themselves permission to follow their magic.

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This show is produced by The Tomato Farm from Mountain View, California.