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This episode features Bjorn van Spengen. Bjorn was one of the founders of Fotomat, which is the company I used work for. He left the company around the same time as me, pivoted, and started working for a bigger company called Metrological in a management position. Bjorn is a good guy who does good work, and he makes it all look so easy, even though it’s not. I think he has a lot of traits that make him a successful person. I guess I should have talked more about that during the episode. I guess we’ll have to do a follow up!

I’m not sure if any secrets to success are revealed in this episode. Maybe the secret is that you should be highly knowledgeable about something that people value. Also, make sure you enjoy it and are good at it. Is that a secret, or does it just make good sense?

There may be a "bad" word or two in this episode, but it's mostly clean. I think a $%!t slips in once or twice, but it is in passing, and not particularly grievous. If that scares you, stay away!

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