This episode explores some different perspectives about climate change. Join me as I sit down with archeologist Dr. Maureen Costura for a conversation about societal collapse, systems thinking, humanity and nature, and how to imagine an optimistic future.

Link to the Savory Institute, who is working to implement active livestock management: https://savory.global

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Music by Dominic Moses

Feast & Forum is a production of the CIA's Applied Food Studies program.