Zach and Jim get together with guests Charles and Dylan of the Friends Talking Fantasy Podcast to dive into the Grimdark fantasy subgenre, exploring what it is all about, why you ought to consider giving it a try, and debating whether authors may push the limits of literature too far in writing this particular type of fantasy fiction. Our guests were wonderful, and we think you'll get a lot of both information and entertainment from this episode.Check our our wonderful guests on their own podcast. It's good fun!:  https://www.theftfpodcast.comDylan references a grimdark voting blog by author Mark Lawrence. You can find it here:  http://mark---lawrence.blogspot.com/2017/08/grimdark-were-nailing-it-down.html Join us on Discord for more conversations with a growing community of fantasy fiction fans: https://discord.gg/jMWyVJ6qKkAccess our patron-only content, unlock the opportunity to listen and chat during live recordings, and explore other benefits by supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/FantasyForTheAgesRate & review us at Apple Podcast or wherever you download content. As they say, "throw us some stars!" Share thoughts, questions, or ideas with us directly: [email protected]. Find us on social media:  Twitter: https://twitter.com/Fantasy4theAges  Instagram: fantasy_for_the_ages  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FantasyForTheAges

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