Josh, Tim, and Rachel talk about how to respond to the Freakonomics argument that abortion has resulted in a drop in crime rates, as well as a new technique Josh has been using when talking to utilitarians.

The episode begins with a discussion of various theories at to Rey’s parentage in the Star Wars universe, in anticipation of “The Last Jedi” coming out. This discussion includes spoilers of “The Force Awakens” and some of what has been learned through “The Last Jedi” trailers, so skip the discussion if you’re avoiding all potential spoilers. Some of this discussion has been moved to a deleted scene below, but if you don’t want to hear any of this discussion, skip to 09:59.