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Enneagram Prison Project Podcast

35 episodes - English - Latest episode: 4 months ago - ★★★★★ - 13 ratings

EPP Podcast is a production of Enneagram Prison Project (EPP).


Hosted by EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey, these raw conversations unpack the amazing journey of EPP over the past 11 years and more.


EPP is on a mission to help people to understand why we do what we do, using the Enneagram to inspire transformation—on both sides of the bars—through self-awareness, self-regulation, and self-compassion.

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Episodes

Episode 34: Jan Shegda

January 02, 2024 19:00 - 2 hours - 89.9 MB

Jan Shegda is a guide for EPP.  She is also quite involved with the project behind the scenes administratively in a variety of spaces.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Jan for a conversation about baby animals, MBTI, and trauma. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 33: Becky

December 05, 2023 08:00 - 1 hour - 46.4 MB

Becky is a community builder for EPP.  She's also married to one of our in-custody participants.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey and EPP Guide Laura Hooper sit down with Becky for a conversation about hope, love, and building a relationship through incarceration. (Note:  This episode was originally scheduled for release in October, and we're delighted to be able to share it now.) For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 32: Cynthia Riha

November 07, 2023 08:00 - 1 hour - 63.2 MB

Cynthia Riha is a Guide for Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Cynthia for a conversation about community, heart, and being real. Special thanks to EPP Guide Laura Hooper for joining us once again on the podcast. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 31: Troy Phillips

September 05, 2023 08:00 - 1 hour - 71.4 MB

Troy Phillips is an Ambassador for Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, fellow EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Troy for a conversation about freedom, responding, and the gift of presence.  Also in this episode, we pause at 45:51 to share a few Words of Appreciation for EPP Board Member Lance White. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 30: Ahshua Bolton

August 01, 2023 10:00 - 1 hour - 60.6 MB

Ahshua Bolton is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits with down Ahshua for a conversation about the prisons of our own making, doing the work together, and more. Also in this episode, we pause at 31:10 to share a few Words of Appreciation for EPP Ambassador Dustin Baldwin . For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 29: Stella Strazdas

July 04, 2023 08:00 - 1 hour - 55.3 MB

Stella Strazdas is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Stella for a conversation about first impressions, apprenticing, and dancing with one another in equality. Special thanks to EPP Lead Guide Laura Hooper for joining this conversation and playing quite a role in the events we discuss. Also in this episode, we pause at 25:48 to share a few Words of Appreciation for Dana Vitorelo. For more information about EPP, please visit En...

Episode 28: Clay Tumey

June 06, 2023 17:00 - 1 hour - 56.7 MB

Clay Tumey is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, EPP Founder Susan Olesek and EPP Executive Director Rick Olesek sit down with Clay for a chat about May 21, 2007—the day the good began. Also in this episode, we pause at 37:49 to share a few Words of Appreciation for Susanne Gawreluk. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 27: Sue Lambert

May 02, 2023 07:00 - 1 hour - 60.9 MB

Sue Lambert is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project.  She is also a guide and on the faculty for EPP.  In this episode, fellow EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Sue for a chat about getting out of jail, going back to prison, and a never-ending gift. Special thanks to EPP Founder Susan Olesek for joining this conversation and helping to make this episode possible. Also in this episode, we pause at 30:40 to share a few Words of Appreciation for Rick Olesek. For more informa...

Episode 26: Happy Anniversary!

April 12, 2023 07:00 - 2 hours - 104 MB

Susan Olesek is the Founder of Enneagram Prison Project.  Rick Olesek is the Executive Director of EPP.  They are partners both in life and in the project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Rick & Susan to celebrate and discuss EPP's 11th year in existence. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Halida Hatic. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 25: First Time In

April 06, 2023 09:00 - 44 minutes - 30.6 MB

Susanne Gawreluk is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project, and her husband, Mike, has a background in telecommunications network engineering.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Mike & Susanne for a conversation about graduation, new outlooks on life, and what it's like to go inside a prison for the first time. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 24: Answering the Call

March 22, 2023 07:00 - 1 hour - 43.7 MB

Laura Hooper is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project.  She is also a program manager (and much more) for the project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Laura for a conversation about stress, programming on the inside, and why we serve those who may never have a release date. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Sue Lambert. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 23: The Work that Never Ends

March 07, 2023 09:00 - 2 hours - 91.9 MB

Dustin Baldwin is an Ambassador for Enneagram Prison Project, and Dana Vitorelo is an EPP Guide.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Dustin & Dana for a conversation about going back to prison, mail call, and their recent trip to Belgium. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Ariane Kessel. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 22: Ripple Effect

February 22, 2023 04:00 - 1 hour - 51.6 MB

Alex Senegal is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project.  He is also a member of the board for EPP.  In this episode, fellow EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Alex for a chat about learning the Enneagram on the inside, representing EPP on the outside, and much more. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Laura Hooper. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 21: Guide Training Program | Part 2

February 07, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 72.4 MB

Continuing our discussion about EPP's Guide Training Program (GTP) in this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey chats with Djinnaya, who recently completed GTP and has moved on to be an apprentice.  In this episode, Djinnaya shares with us in detail her introduction to the Enneagram, EPP, and ultimately the path of becoming a guide. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Riley Brown.   For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 20: Guide Training Program

December 06, 2022 09:00 - 2 hours - 95.8 MB

EPP Guides are constantly growing, conscious individuals who have journeyed their own inner terrain with enough depth and skill to offer their wisdom, experience, and steady presence to others who are navigating their own journeys. The Guide Training Program (GTP) is about developing and bringing out those particular skills and gifts, as well as finding and working the edges where we are still developing.  We offer support and assurance to effectively and compassionately guide our participa...

Episode 19: Sweetly Stubborn

November 01, 2022 07:00 - 2 hours - 93.7 MB

Sherrie Lee is a self-described newbie in the Enneagram world.  She’s also Mom to EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey.   In this episode, Sherrie and Clay sit down for a chat about character assessments, prison chats, and new perspectives. Special thanks to EPP Guide Dana Vitorelo for (among many other things) helping to make this episode  possible. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Jodi Norton. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProje...

Episode 18: Making the Decision

October 04, 2022 07:00 - 1 hour - 41.8 MB

In this episode, we go back in time to October 2015 for a conversation with EPP Founder Susan Olesek and EPP Ambassadors Victor Soto and Clay Tumey about opening up on the inside, being willing to look at a new way, and making the decision to take the first step in a new direction. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 17: Around the Campfire

September 15, 2022 00:00 - 43 minutes - 30.2 MB

In this episode, we hear from a variety of campers—ambassadors, faculty, guides, and more—at the inaugural EPP Camping Trip, which happened in Northern California just outside of Yosemite National Park the last weekend of August 2022. Good food, hiking, swimming, dominoes and so much more.  Listen in for a peek into a weekend of community with the Enneagram Prison Project. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 16: RJ Donovan

July 04, 2022 20:00 - 1 hour - 62.7 MB

In this episode, three EPP Guides (Halida Hatic, Scott Tavenner and Jan Shegda) share their experiences from a recent trip to a San Diego prison where Enneagram Prison Project held a weeklong intensive with 60+ residents across three classes. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 15: That's a wrap!

May 12, 2022 23:00 - 30 minutes - 20.7 MB

Clay Tumey wraps up the first season of the EPP Podcast with clips and commentary. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 14: THE Enneagram Prison Project (10 Year Anniversary Episode)

April 12, 2022 08:00 - 3 hours - 142 MB

Susan Olesek is the Founder of Enneagram Prison Project.  Rick Olesek is the Executive Director of EPP.  They are partners both in life and in the project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Susan & Rick to talk about the entire journey of EPP as it has unfolded over the past decade, plus the years that preceded the project's inception in the first place. In 2022, EPP is celebrating 10 years of freeing people - all over the world - from the prisons of our own making....

Episode 13: The Mountain Doesn’t Care

March 12, 2022 09:00 - 1 hour - 48.3 MB

Eric McCluskey is a longtime friend of Enneagram Prison Project and is also a member of the Board. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey returns to the Bay Area for a conversation with Eric that spans everything from the scaling of EPP to the magnitude of nature. Also in this episode, we are introducing a new segment called Words of Appreciation. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Jason White. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramP...

Episode 12: Not a Supposed-to-be-agram

February 12, 2022 09:00 - 1 hour - 59.3 MB

Laura Hooper is a Program Manager and Guide for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with Laura to discuss topics including the importance of not “othering” the incarcerated, the value of a hug, and much more. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 11: Alone Together

January 12, 2022 09:00 - 1 hour - 41.7 MB

Tara Meehan is a long-time supporter of Enneagram Prison Project and also a member of our board.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with Tara to discuss everything from life as Type Seven to the joy associated with generosity. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 10: Outside My Realm of Comfort

December 12, 2021 18:00 - 56 minutes - 39.1 MB

Lance White is a board member for Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits New Mexico and sits down for a conversation with Lance to discuss everything from business ownership to what it’s like having a child serving time in prison. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 9: Conversations at the Dinner Party

November 30, 2021 19:00 - 1 hour - 78.7 MB

In this special Giving Tuesday Bonus episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with EPP Guide and graphic artist Robin Grant and beloved friend and partner of the project Dr. Heather Greenwald. Pull up a chair and join the conversation as they explore topics ranging from their personal origin stories with EPP, how the project has inspired them, and insightful perspectives on the Enneagram as a tool for personal transformation and healing.  In the ...

Episode 8: Office Spaces

November 12, 2021 09:00 - 1 hour - 53.3 MB

Rick Olesek is the Executive Director of Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with Rick about topics ranging from funny movie quotes to leaving a career in private enterprise for a journey more meaningful. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 7: More than a Workbook

October 12, 2021 08:00 - 2 hours - 84.5 MB

EPP Guides walk alongside the incarcerated in finding a way out of the prisons of our own making.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits Minnesota and talks with Phil GebbenGreen and Susanne Gawreluk—two EPP Guides who are responsible for our first local community outside of California. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 6: I'm in this with you

September 12, 2021 15:00 - 1 hour - 67.1 MB

EPP Guides are on the frontline of taking the enneagram into prisons to share with the populations who need it most.  More than simply teaching, our guides walk alongside those incarcerated in finding a way out of the prisons of our own making.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey chats with EPP Guides Dana Vitorelo and Camilla Norman Field.

Episode 6: I'm in this with you

September 12, 2021 15:00 - 1 hour - 67.1 MB

EPP Guides are on the frontline of taking the enneagram into prisons to share with the populations who need it most.  More than simply teaching, our guides walk alongside those incarcerated in finding a way out of the prisons of our own making.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey chats with EPP Guides Dana Vitorelo and Camilla Norman Field. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 5: Russ Hudson

August 12, 2021 14:00 - 1 hour - 53.9 MB

Russ Hudson is one of the principal scholars and innovative thinkers in the Enneagram system’s development worldwide.  In this episode, Clay and Russ sit down to chat about a variety of topics including Euclidean geometry, poisoned gummy bears, and why the Enneagram is not a tic-tac-toe board.  Please visit RussHudson.com for information about teachings, new publications, and more. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 4: Re-entry

July 12, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 82.8 MB

In this 2-hour episode, some of our EPP Ambassadors share their stories of re-entry in a powerful and moving conversation about the moments before, during, and after release. In this poignant and insightful episode, fellow EPP Ambassador and host Clay Tumey inquires about our Ambassador's personal journey with the Enneagram, how they found EPP, and what it's like navigating life post-incarceration. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 3: EPP goes to jail

June 12, 2021 22:00 - 52 minutes - 36.3 MB

In episode 3, EPP goes to jail for the very first time. During a truly touching walk down memory lane, you are invited to listen as Clay Tumey reconnects two unusual Facebook friends, EPP Ambassador Vic Soto, and Neelam Wadhwani, the retired Program Manager from the facility at which Vic served his last sentence ending 17 years of incarceration. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 2: The Beginnings...

May 12, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 45.1 MB

The EPP Podcast is back this month as our host, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey, "turns the tables" on EPP Founder Susan Olesek for a not-to-be-missed conversation about the Enneagram, hosting a relationship panel in prison, and the birth of Enneagram Prison Project! For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 1: Choppin' it up

April 13, 2021 01:00 - 48 minutes - 33.5 MB

In this inaugural episode, three EPP ambassadors—Clay Tumey, Victor Soto, and Alex Senegal—chop it up and talk about daily life, crosswalk safety, and what it means to be “O.G.”  Casual dialogue among brothers, this first episode offers a quick glimpse into what it’s like to be an Ambassador of the Enneagram Prison Project. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.