In this Shane Hastie, Lead Editor for Culture & Methods, spoke to Phil Abernathy about his work helping organisations focus on employee happiness to drive customer happiness and shareholder return and the Bureaucracy Mass Index as a tool to identify where companies are bloated and ineffective. He also spoke about what’s needed for real transformation.

Why listen to this podcast:

• Great companies are realising that in order to attract great talent you have to have a great place to work
• If you have complex systems and complex processes, the root cause will be complex structures
• The organisational BMI – the Bureaucracy Mass Index, the proportion of enablers to doers. A healthy BMI is around 10%, whereas in many organisations it gets to be as high as 40%
• Having clear objectives that are visible to the while organisation enables good decision making; Objectives and Key Results are one tool to achieve this
• Organization transformation must include mindset and culture as well as structure and roles

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