Meghan has always been John's "go-to" person when dealing with motivation issues, and today's show is no different. Coach Meghan and Friend Meghan become one as they talk about;

the difference between lack of motivation and depression

how you should never mistake depression and lack of motivation for laziness

the "spiral" example (John Green)

the paralyzation of feeling Overwhelmed, and

the one thing about "pain"

Plus some thoughts on watching athletes you coach do well in their key races

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