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Emergency 9 Golf

156 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 22 hours ago - ★★★★★ - 61 ratings

Covering the world of golf and more. Golf junkies, Mike Morrone, Jay Woodson, and McLean Boyd will use their decades of golf industry expertise to bring you fun, entertaining and informative takes on golf news. Each episode will react to news across the golf landscape while occasionally diverging to other life topics. Special guests will be making appearances throughout the 19th hole conversations of these three golf buddies.

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Episodes

Episode 157: Man Against Boys

April 17, 2024 12:45 - 1 hour - 84.7 MB

Another impressive performance from the #1 player in the world as Scottie win's his second green jacket at The Masters and continues his hot streak. We breakdown his performance, his game, and his persona. We dive deep and do our best to find new ways to explain his great greatness. Is Scottie dominating good for golf? We also discuss some of the other contenders from the weekend. We touch on Tiger's performance after making another cut at Augusta. We then make our picks for this week's "sig...

Episode 156: Azaleas

April 10, 2024 14:00 - 1 hour - 108 MB

The best week of the year is here! But before we get to The Masters, we have a lot to breakdown and discuss after no show last week. We start by discussing the crazy finish at the Valero Texas Open between Akshay Bhatia and Denny McCarthy. We then touch on Stephen Jaeger's first PGA Tour victory in Houston as he out dueled Scottie. Some other non-PGA Tour related news is discussed- Nelly Korda on a tear, LIV Miami, as well as a couple of Masshole Minutes on Chris DiMarco and Bryson DeChambea...

Episode 155: Peter Malnati Shocks the World

March 27, 2024 17:45 - 59 minutes - 54.8 MB

The mule-lord himself, Peter Malnati gets it done at the Valspar this past weekend. We discuss his unusual game for today's day and age, as well as how it's just about getting it in the hole. It is a true underdog story! We also discuss Cameron Young's close call again and whether or not he will ever get that first win on the PGA Tour. We get into a putting conversation on the heels of JT's epically bad putting performance in the third round. We give our thoughts on some putting items that s...

Episode 154: Look Out PGA Tour

March 20, 2024 14:30 - 1 hour - 69.3 MB

Scottie Scheffler may not lose again after doing what no man has done before- back-to-back Players Championships. We discuss all things Scottie after his amazing performance and touch on the other contenders- Wyndham Clark and Xander Schauffele. We even dive into a few instructions and game improvement topics based on our discussion of all three of them. Hopefully you can take something away to help out your game. We touch on the course and NBC coverage from this past weekend. There was a me...

Episode 153: Happy Learned to Putt

March 13, 2024 12:30 - 1 hour - 89.1 MB

Uh Oh! The PGA Tour better look out because Scottie learned to putt... maybe. Is this the new Scottie or just a honeymoon-phase with a new putter? How many wins could he have this week if the continues to putt this well? We get into his win at Bay Hill as well as Rory's recent play, and the Wyndham Clark controversy as well. In the middle, McLean does his magic and hijacks the conversation with a rollback debate. There is a small preview of The Players mixed into the opening conversation. Bo...

Episode 152: Fireworks Needed

March 07, 2024 14:45 - 1 hour - 66.5 MB

We are back, but a day late! The PGA Tour ended with a Monday finish due to more weather issues and another longshot winner. We discuss Austin Eckroat and his first victory a little. Also, we give our thoughts on the course setup this week. Does the PGA Tour need more fireworks this year? It has been a slow start to the season with the big names not performing. Is this because of LIV, as Paul Azinger says it is? We break that down as well as the OWGR discussion that still hangs over every L...

Episode 151: The Knappster

February 28, 2024 14:30 - 1 hour - 73.1 MB

Jake Knapp becomes a star down in Mexico. Are there big things to come with him or a flash in the pan? We breakdown his win in Mexico before getting into a load of news and notes around the world of golf. Most of the news is LIV related with Anthony Kim officially making is comeback this week. We also get into Jon Rahm and his recent interview with ESPN. The Masters gives out a couple special invitations including a LIV player. Mike goes on a "Masshole Minute" based on two LIV crybabies and ...

Episode 150: Shinning in Tinseltown

February 21, 2024 12:30 - 1 hour - 95.2 MB

Hideki shines in LA on his way to a final round 62 to win the Genesis by 3-shots. We breakdown his game and performance along with many of the contenders. Will Zalatoris seems to be back after a great week and the putting looks much better. We discuss the games and likeability of Cantlay and Xander, before getting into Scottie's putting once again. It is time to make a change after the same story again with him. There is a brief handicap argument over Jay's sandbagging. Then we talk about Ti...

Episode 149: Wasted Open

February 14, 2024 14:45 - 1 hour - 89.2 MB

Has the WM Phoenix Open gone too far? We discuss Nick Taylor's playoff victory as well as other top contenders in the field. We then get into some of the issues facing the WM Open if things keep getting out of control and players get upset. Some details come out about the "equity" the players will hold in the new PGA Tour Enterprises but we seem to have more questions than answers like always. LIV Vegas is discussed and the players effort is questioned after DJ's recent comments. The KFT Tou...

Episode 148: 54, the new 72?

February 07, 2024 13:30 - 1 hour - 82.9 MB

Pebble Beach week was a little disappointing as weather ruined what could have been a huge week on the PGA Tour. We breakdown Wyndham Clark's game after his third win in less than a year, with a fantastic "final round" 60 on Saturday. We discuss a few of the other contenders from the week and really want to know how to say Ludvig Aberg's name. The PGA Tour finally announced their deal with the SSG, so we discuss and still have more questions than answers at this point. Will the PIF deal happ...

Episode 147: The Saliva That Flows

January 31, 2024 13:00 - 1 hour - 81.1 MB

Fully loaded show this week, with all three hosts back together. We get into Matthieu Pavon's breakout win and his game in contention. The show goes off the rails briefly when his tattoo gets discussed but we get it back by discussing some of the other contenders from Torrey Pines. There was some poor putting this past week, was it really just the Poa?? Then we get into some of the off course rumors and happenings- Anthony Kim's possible comeback, LIV teams and players as they open their sea...

Episode 146: Dad's Away

January 25, 2024 15:00 - 1 hour - 109 MB

Sorry for the delayed release this week but one of our guests is out of the country this week. The boys do touch a lot of topics in the world of golf this week. Obviously, Nick Dunlap is the huge newsmaker and we breakdown his performance, his game, and where does he go from here. Others in contention are discussed- Sam Burns and Justin Thomas. We also discuss the low scores and ease of the course. Michael Block was back in a PGA Tour field this week and the boys give him some love. Rory win...

Episode 145: TIO Relief

January 17, 2024 14:45 - 1 hour - 78.5 MB

Another week in Hawaii and another redemption story. This time it is Greyson Murray getting the win after battling his own personal issues. We chat about his checkered past as well as his win. The games of a few of the other contenders, Keegan Bradley, Ben An, and Russell Henley, are discussed. There was also a very interesting relief situation involving Carl Yuan and TIO relief that we chat about. Tommy Fleetwood and Rory McIlroy created some interesting talking points after the Dubai Invit...

Episode 144: Journeyman to Stalwart

January 10, 2024 16:30 - 1 hour - 74.4 MB

After another solid win, Chris Kirk is no longer a journeyman. We talk about his win at The Sentry to kick off the 2024 season. We discuss the golf course and low scoring, as well as Scottie, Jordan and others. Kevin Kisner made his debut in the booth for NBC and we breakdown his performance. Rory's "reversal" comments made the rounds last week, but were they really a reversal? Also, Tiger was back in the news again after his split with Nike was finally made public. We finish off the show wi...

Episode 143: New Year, Same Tour

January 03, 2024 14:30 - 1 hour - 72.2 MB

2024 is upon us! We touch on a few leftover topics regarding the PGA Tour and PIF after their deadline is pushed back. We then get into our season preview with some names to watch and predictions for the year. We finish off with our picks for the first event of the season in Hawaii.

Episode 142: Jay Monahan's Biggest Fans

December 20, 2023 15:45 - 2 hours - 117 MB

Even in a slow golf  news week, we find a way to have a lengthy pod. We started off with some topics that came out of Team Woods' appearance at the PNC Championship. We then dive into the news surrounding a potential agreement between the PGA Tour and the newly formed SSG, made up of billionaire sports team owners. What is next? What happens between the PIF and LIV with the Tour? A lot of questions still remain to be answered. Jay Monahan's performance and future is debated after the news of...

Episode 141: Award Winning Podcast

December 13, 2023 15:15 - 1 hour - 105 MB

We have a cool announcement to start off the show this week. Mike then goes on a Masshole Minute of sorts regarding the game of golf, what is wrong but what is good about this great game. We then get into a very busy week of news off the course in the world of golf. We have another rollback discussion after the formal announcement from the USGA and R&A. The other big news that was finally announced was Jon Rahm signing with LIV. We give our thoughts on his decision, comments and other topics...

Episode 140: Pardon Our Interruption

December 05, 2023 17:45 - 1 hour - 76.5 MB

Some big topics this week! The show kicks off easy with some Tiger Woods discussion coming off his comeback at the Hero. We also discuss a few other players that caught our attention this past weekend, including the winner, Scottie Scheffler. Jon Rahm going to LIV is picking up more steam, so we give out thoughts on him and LIV. Mike then goes on a Masshole Minute about the mules of the PGA Tour coming off of some quotes from Chris Stroud and a petition going around. We then of course get in...

Episode 139: Comeback Season

November 29, 2023 13:45 - 1 hour - 79.7 MB

Tiger is back! We dive into all topics Tiger after his press conference and return to golf at the Hero World Challenge. What does the future hold for Tiger? What can we expect from him this week and moving forward? We discuss the Jon Rahm to LIV rumors and Mike needs the guys to try to cheer him up regarding the future of professional golf. We then make our picks for this week's Hero event.

Episode 138: ROY?

November 22, 2023 13:30 - 1 hour - 61.3 MB

Ludvig Aberg wins the final event of the season on the PGA Tour and did he win the Rookie of the Year as well? We break down what makes him successful, what we think his career could be like, and if he stole the ROY from Eric Cole. We then discuss a lot of the off course topics that came up this past week. Jordan Spieth replaces Rory on the Policy Board, TGL has been postponed a year, our friend Lanto Griffin goes off on Rory and the Tour, Tiger is coming back, and Azinger is out at NBC. A l...

Episode 137: Spider-Man is Back!

November 15, 2023 13:45 - 1 hour - 64.6 MB

Big win for Camilo Villegas this week! But before we got into Camillo's huge week, there is a little argument based on the rollback/ golf course setup debate coming off a trip that Mike went on this past week. We do discuss some of Camilo's background, past success, difficulty with the loss of his daughter and now the career changing win that could re-shape his professional future. We then get into a debate about the top American golfers based on Max Homa's victory in Africa. Is he the best ...

Episode 136: Where Does the Water Go?

November 07, 2023 13:45 - 1 hour - 62.2 MB

Kind of slow week in golf and down a host, but that doesn't stop us! We react to some of the topics coming out of the World Wide Technology Championship in Mexico. Kuchar, EVR, Camillo, and the course are discussed. We then get into a green reading discussion and how we go about it during play. Hopefully you can take a few things to out to help your game. We then discuss some of the news coming out of Tiger and Rory's new TGL golf league. News about the format, rules, teams, logos, etc. havi...

Episode 135: Angle of Attack

October 31, 2023 14:45 - 1 hour - 61.7 MB

All healed up and back for another show. A little slow in the golf world but we end up touching on a few of the topics around the world of golf. We then get into a big discussion regarding a recent debate heating up in the short game instruction world. We give our thoughts on various techniques and what can work for different people. There is a little NFL minute to end the show but first we make our picks for this week's World Wide Technology Championship in Mexico.

Episode 134: Big Easy Hug

October 19, 2023 13:15 - 58 minutes - 53.5 MB

Two man show this week to discuss the news and events in the world of golf. We start off the show with a shoutout to a great event to raise money for a great cause, although one of our hosts got a little handsy with a World Golf Hall of Famer. We then dive into Tom Kim's back-to-back win in Vegas. What is his ceiling? We discuss a little bit of the new fall series, Q-school, and paths to the PGA Tour for collegiate players. There was also some news this week in the golf television entertainm...

Episode 132: Class of 2023

October 11, 2023 13:00 - 1 hour - 74.9 MB

Who watched some golf this past weekend? Because we didn't. Slower week in golf but we discuss a few of the storylines from the Sanderson's Farms. We then really give into the best part of the weekend- Korn Ferry Tour Finals. We discuss many of the back stories of the new crop of graduates to the PGA Tour. Who are these guys you will be watching? There was some breaking news prior to the show from the OWGR and their decision to deny LIV world rankings points. Lastly, we talk Lexi's debut on ...

Episode 131: We Need A Dog... Or A Big Cat

October 05, 2023 14:00 - 1 hour - 81 MB

We are back with our thoughts and breakdown of another US loss on European soil in the Ryder Cup. Who is to blame? Are there bigger issues? There is a lot to talk about. Of course, as with every Ryder Cup, there seems to be some extra drama. We discuss the Cantlay/ LaCava/ Rory incident. Also, we get into the pay for play aspect of it. Do these guys deserve to get paid? We end with some picks for this week's Sanderson Farms event on the PGA Tour.

Episode 130: Ryder Cup Week

September 27, 2023 12:30 - 1 hour - 60.9 MB

One of the best week's of the year is here! It's Ryder Cup week! We break down all the action and thoughts from the week. Does the Euro team have more momentum? Does the USA finally get it done on foreign soil? We discuss the course, pairings, our picks for MVP, LVP and some more predictions. We even quickly talk about the topic of order of the lineups and how much the golf ball plays a role in the foursomes format. The show ends with our DraftKings picks for this week. Enjoy the Ryder Cup!!

Episode 129: Topics A Plenty

September 20, 2023 14:45 - 1 hour - 64.2 MB

A little bit of a slower week in golf but we touch on a plethora of topics from around the world of golf. We discuss Sahith's first win, JT's performance, shaft weight and flexes, the Euro Ryder Cup team, Marco Simone, Ryan Fox and the BMW PGA, Jimmy Walker's complaints, a dumb tweet from an amateur and more!! We even touch on our own games briefly and a little NFL football.

Episode 128: Back to Rollback

September 13, 2023 14:15 - 1 hour - 105 MB

Well quite a show this week. We started off talking some football off the start to the NFL season. A little bourbon talk sneaks in there and then we get into some golf. The European Ryder Cup was finalized since our last show so we give our thoughts on their team and picks. A few other small topics from the world of golf get brought up before we get into another typical long, drawn out debate. This time we are back on the rollback debate. We cap off the show with our picks for this week's Fo...

Episode 127: To The Viktor Go The Spoils

August 30, 2023 17:15 - 1 hour - 99.2 MB

Viktor Hovland wins again and this time takes home a big pay day! We discuss his transformation this year to take his game up another step and discuss how his coach, Joe Mayo has been successful with him. We chat about a few other topics from the Tour Championship- Xander, the format, big names falling down the board, etc. We then get into our reaction to Zach Johnson's Ryder Cup Captain's picks. An interesting suspension happened on the Korn Ferry Tour this week but the Tour doesn't publici...

Episode 126: Round of the Year?

August 22, 2023 13:15 - 1 hour - 90.4 MB

Did we just witness the round of the year by Viktor Hovland?? We breakdown his epic final round at this past weekend's BMW Championship. We touch on Scottie's performance and dive into some more putting conversations. The locations and courses of the playoff events spurs some discussions on changes we would like to see. We, of course, then get into more Ryder Cup debates as the first six automatic qualifiers are locked in. Finally, we have a little US Am chat before getting into our picks fo...

Episode 125: LFG!

August 15, 2023 14:00 - 1 hour - 99.2 MB

Lucas @#$! Glover! With his new broomstick in hand, Lucas Glover has had quite the resurgence to his game. He wins back-to-back events and puts himself into position to not only win the FedEx Cup but also to get a spot on the Ryder Cup team. We breakdown his story and what it took to get to this point. We also discuss how the Ryder Cup teams are shaping up as we get down to crunch time. Who do we think should be picked for both the US and Euro teams. Phil's gambling habits made huge headline...

Episode 124: What Putter Do You Use?

August 01, 2023 15:00 - 1 hour - 90.5 MB

Back for another episode and we kick off the show with another putter discussion after more players switched to counter balanced putters after our talk last week. Should you be using a mallet putter? We then get into a few stories from the weekend- JT Poston going for it on 18, Lee Hodges impressive win and an interesting DQ on the LPGA Tour. That leads us into a chat on the roles rules officials should play in golf. We end with our picks for this week's regular season finale in North Caroli...

Episode 123: Proper Golf

July 26, 2023 15:00 - 1 hour - 81.7 MB

Brian Harman is the Champion Golfer of the Year. We breakdown his runaway victory in the season's last major. We touch on a few of the big names and their putting deficiencies which leads to a conversation regarding putting technique and counter balanced putters becoming en vouge on Tour. We also discuss our thoughts on how the course played during the championship- Were the bunkers too penal? What about the internal OB? This is capped off with our weekly DraftKings picks for this week's 3M ...

Episode 122: Coffee Golf

July 18, 2023 16:00 - 1 hour - 88.4 MB

After summer break, we are back and links season is here! We get in-depth into Rory and his win at the Scottish Open, plus touch on Robert MacIntyre's performance. We briefly get caught up on some past stories that we missed; Rickie's win in Detroit, the US Women's Open, and the Congressional hearing about the PGA Tour and PIF agreement. During the show Mike goes on a couple of Masshole Mintues with CBS and Congress being the targets. We then get into the 151st Open Championship preview that...

Episode 121: Man Down

June 27, 2023 12:30 - 1 hour - 86.4 MB

We had an Emergency 9 Golf Podcast first this week! One of our hosts walks out of the show after another heated, yet typical, debate. Before that, we start with Keegan Bradley and his win at the Travelers Championship this past weekend. We get into a Ryder Cup discussion based on Keegan's rise in the rankings and that turns into one of our favorite debates on Justin Thomas. We lose a guy briefly before we discuss the PGA Tour/ PIF "merger". The show ends with our picks for this week's Rocket...

Episode 120: Play Cocky

June 20, 2023 13:45 - 1 hour - 90.5 MB

Wyndham Clark wins again; this time it's a major. We breakdown his victory at the US Open this past weekend in LA. What got him over the edge and what has caused his recent rapid ascension. We then discuss another close call for Rory and give our takes on what we think it will take for him to get over the hump. Rickie Fowler being in contention is a good thing for all of us and reminds us why he is so likable. The course and venue of LACC was quite the talking point this weekend so we must g...

Episode 119: His Excellency, Jay Monahan

June 14, 2023 14:00 - 1 hour - 96.5 MB

Well.... what a week. We start off briefly discussing the dramatic finish at the RBC Canadian Open and the tackle of the year. But of course, we spend a lot of time giving our thoughts on the mega-news story of the golf year so far; the "merger" between the PGA Tour and the PIF. How does this all shake out? Who are the winners and losers? We still have more questions than answers but we do our best to break it all down. We then get into the US Open with a little course preview and give our p...

Episode 118: Viktor Victory

June 06, 2023 15:15 - 1 hour - 70.3 MB

Viktor finally gets it done in a big event with a win at The Memorial over Denny McCarthy in a playoff. We breakdown their play plus get into Scottie's crazy ball striking and putting statistics. Does he need to make a change? We also discuss what is going on with Rory. However, the biggest story of the week may have come out of the LPGA Tour with Rose Zhang's victory in her pro debut. Then hit on a few other topics from around the world of golf- JB Holmes, Matt Wolff, Phil Mickelson and US ...

Episode 117: Ryder Die

May 31, 2023 17:15 - 1 hour - 82.7 MB

McLean was back with some cool stories about his dad this week after missing last week's episode. The PGA Championship was still a topic that led into a lengthy debate on potential LIV players on the US Ryder Cup squad. We then touched briefly on the Charles Schwab Challenge and discussed Scottie Scheffler's putting. The comments between Claude Harmon III, Phil Mickelson and Brandel Chamblee were a hot button issue for one of our hosts, who does not take so kindly to Brandel's ways. We finis...

Episode 116: Not All Heroes Wear Capes

May 24, 2023 15:15 - 1 hour - 70.5 MB

Block Fever! We kick off the show with the story of PGA Championship week, Michael Block. PGA Professionals mean a little more to this podcast and we celebrate his amazing week. We then, of course, talk about Brooks Koepka winning his 5th major. We breakdown his game and why it is so good for major championships. Where does he rank among the all time greats? We get into some Viktor Hovland, course notes and Ryder Cup storylines that came out of the weekend. Finally, we make our picks from th...

Episode 115: J-Day Has A Day

May 16, 2023 11:30 - 1 hour - 78.2 MB

Jason Day caps off his resurgence this year for his first win in 5 years. We break down his game recently and what we like about him. Some other topics from the AT&T Byron Nelson are discussed including their stadium hole. We look at the FedEx Cup rankings and some of the names that are outside the important cut lines right now. LIV was of course in the news this week as they were back in action in Tulsa. There was an exciting finish but not many people saw it as the CW apparently didn't fin...

Episode 114: Wyndham Rewards

May 10, 2023 12:00 - 1 hour - 62 MB

Wyndham Clark wins his first ever professional event at the most recent designated event, Wells Fargo. We react to his play to finish off the event and hold off one of the top players in the world. Our thoughts on Quail Hollow are shared before breaking down Xander Schauffele's game. Does he seem like an underachiever because he's always in contention? There is a sense that a little fatigue may be setting in amongst the best players in the world based off of recent weeks. We then take a look...

Episode 113: Told you!

May 04, 2023 14:00 - 1 hour - 67.3 MB

Sorry for the delay this week as we had some software issues. Mr. Tony Finau is on fire! We discuss his most recent victory after one of our hosts calls it last week. He takes down the hottest player in the world, while looking into his eyes. Akshay Bhatia's game and prospects are discussed before Jay proposes an interesting debate. Who wins the grand slam first? Then we dive into Tiger's surgery and Joe LaCava switching to Patrick Cantlay's bag. LIV gets brought up briefly prior to us makin...

Episode 112: After Work Golf Club

April 26, 2023 14:30 - 1 hour - 60 MB

We are joined by some guests this week. Ryan and Zach from the After Work Golf Club hop on the show to discuss the cool golf community they are organizing in Wilmington, NC with like minded golfers. It is a great different perspective from two fellow golf junkies that have caught the bug like all of us have. They are also selling some really cool merchandise that everyone should check out. We chat with them about what they have going on before getting their takes on the world of professional...

Episode 111: Home Away From Home

April 19, 2023 15:45 - 1 hour - 80.8 MB

Fitz gets his win that he's been dreaming about since a kid at the RBC Heritage. It was quite a show him and Spieth put on down the stretch and in the playoff. We breakdown the action and of course touch on Patrick Cantlay and the pace of play problems on Tour. What is the best way to solve this? Rory's WD cost him some money, so we discuss the headlines surrounding his decision to skip another designated event. We cap off the show with our picks and thoughts on this week's 2-man Zurich Clas...

Episode 110: Vamos Rahmbo!

April 12, 2023 14:00 - 1 hour - 76.3 MB

Jon Rahm gets it done at The Masters for his first green jacket. We breakdown all of the action and the many storylines that came out of the weekend. Rory, Tiger, Sam Bennett, the LIV guys, weather, and more are discussed. We then cap the show with our picks for this week's elevated event at the RBC Heritage.

Episode 109: Darin Bevard of the USGA

March 28, 2023 15:00 - 2 hours - 111 MB

We have a pretty cool two part show this week. We start off with an interview with Darin Bevard of the USGA. Darin is the Senior Director of Championship Agronomy who is responsible for setting up the US Open and some of the other biggest golf championships in our country. It was a fun chat with a different perspective on the game of golf. The second part of the episode touches on some topics coming off of Sam Burns' victory at the Dell Match Play. A few equipment items are discussed based o...

Episode 108: They See Me Rollin'

March 21, 2023 16:00 - 1 hour - 109 MB

Who likes arguing? Well we definitely get there this episode but first we start off with our discussion on the Valspar Championship. We talk a little Taylor Moore, Jordan Spieth and a conversation about putting speed gets going after Adam Schenk's attempt on the last hole (8:15). Also, there was some golf played in Arizona this past weekend with the LIV Tucson event. Do they need the big names to step up? (37:15) We then start a conversation about the USGA's decision to "rollback" the golf b...

Episode 107: That Horse is Dead

March 14, 2023 14:30 - 1 hour - 86.2 MB

Another fiery episode this week. We start off with a little NCAA talk and a Masshole Minute after selection Sunday. We then get into a lengthy discussion regarding topics that came out of The Players Championship. Scottie Scheffler is obviously a topic, as well as a rules segment and equipment segment based off some of the events of the weekend. We then dive into more debate regarding the new changes to the 2024 PGA Tour season and whether we like them or not. Of course, we disagree and beat...