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VP of sales for Vision-e and owner of OTB, Jonathan Hairgrove, is Dan and Broc’s guest today on the podcast. While it’s nice to help take care of someone else’s problem with your software, it’s also okay to charge for doing so. Sometimes our struggle is not staying motivated or being the best in our field, sometimes the struggle is to have a balance between our “side hustle”, our day job, and our family. Set realistic goals. Jonathan also presents the idea of choosing one bill a month even though it may be small and determining to pay it with money from the business you are starting.


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