The sculptor is one of the most recognisable figures in contemporary art. Over his four-decade career, how have conversations about representation and appropriation changed? He talks to Anne McElvoy about cancel culture and the risks of tokenism for creative institutions. The Turner prize winner also assesses whether public art needs to be popular and the controversy around his use of the blackest black ever created.


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