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Eating Your Cake Too Podcast

56 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 1 month ago - ★★★★★ - 3 ratings

Meet Claire Seeber, global career and leadership coach, facilitator, speaker AND founder of Eating your Cake too, a business focussed on helping YOU sell yourself with more confidence and take control of your career and leadership success. In the Eating your Cake too podcast, you’ll learn something new, relevant and immediately implementable that you can go and do in your own life ensuring that you show up with greater impact, more influence and are heard, seen and really noticed!

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4 Things you Need to do to Play to your Strengths!

March 12, 2024 21:15 - 21 minutes - 29.1 MB

 “I’d love to see you leverage your strengths more in this role”.    “Just play to your strengths - the rest will follow”.    Ever had or heard feedback like this before?    It’s not wrong, but it isn’t overly helpful either.    What is often lacking in this conventional advice about strengths play, is the actual “HOW TO” of playing to your strengths to achieve outcomes for yourself, your team, and your organisation.   My view on this is that there are actually FOUR criti...

Episode 54 5 Things your Boss wants you to do this Year!

February 13, 2024 21:40 - 30 minutes - 42.4 MB

5 Things your Boss wants you to do this Year!  Is wanting more recognition at work on your list of goals this year? If so, this month's podcast topic is for you.    If you are wanting to showcase yourself as a go-getter, or a star performer this year in your Organisation, one that is ready for new opportunities, there are 5 things that your boss really wants you to know and, more importantly, DO!    Set Clear Goals and Objectives for yourself  Be an Impact Player - AKA Show initiati...

How sleep influences our bad, bold and brave choices with Amanda Slinger

January 09, 2024 22:00 - 42 minutes - 78.2 MB

So what connects a pirouette, airline safety briefings and Dolly Parton?   It's all covered in this episode of the Eating your Cake too podcast!   For your listening delight, I welcome you to join myself and Amanda Slinger - founder of SleepSpot, and rest and sleep expert.   I have been telling EVERYONE about this episode.  After speaking with Amanda, I walked away with a polite kick up the butt and some seriously powerful insights! Amanda is a wealth of knowledge on all things r...

High, Lows and Lessons of 2023

December 12, 2023 21:15 - 34 minutes - 78.3 MB

Often in our jobs, after completing a project or piece of work we’re asked to reflect on what went well, what didn’t go well, and what would we do differently next time.  How often do we apply that same discipline to ourselves though?   In this episode of the Eating your Cake too podcast I put my 2023 out on the table for you.    The good.    The bad.    The ugly.    And most importantly, the lessons I learnt.    There are also two big gems towards the end, shared wit...

Know your Numbers with Molly Benjamin from Ladies Finance Club!

November 21, 2023 21:15 - 36 minutes - 49.6 MB

Female financial literacy is a topic that is gaining conversation and momentum.  Recently coming to light the alarming statistic that the fastest growing group to experience homelessness in Australia is women aged 50+.  Ladies, it's time to know your numbers!   I am beyond pumped to have Molly Benjamin on the Eating Your Cake Too Podcast, showing us finance can be fun!   There is no better advocate than Molly as she shares her personal journey with us.  She was that young woman who s...

Our 50th Episode!

October 24, 2023 16:00 - 33 minutes - 62.2 MB

Can you believe it? We've reached a super sweet milestone - our 50th podcast episode! It's been an incredible journey filled with laughter, thought-provoking insights, some tears, and a hellof a lot of heart on the Eating your Cake too podcast! To mark this occasion, I wanted to do something a little different.  So, we turned to YOU, our amazing listeners, the heartbeat of the podcast.    I threw out a call on Instagram, inviting you to ask me anything - and, you sure did come through...

Let’s Talk Workplace Entitlement With Trina Sunday

October 10, 2023 16:00 - 48 minutes - 88.4 MB

Workplace entitlement, or ‘entitled employees’ is something we are hearing ALOT of talk about at the moment.  So I decided to sit down for a chat with the one of the best in the business to talk about what actually is employee entitlement, and why is it such a hot topic right now? In our latest podcast episode, Trina Sunday shares her 25 years of knowledge in the HR and OD space, as well as her unique perspective to our discussion.   Trina shares her wisdom on how to effectively addres...

How to deal when you inherit a team you didn't hire

September 26, 2023 21:15 - 30 minutes - 27.6 MB

You’ve found yourself in charge of people — whether you’ve been promoted or transferred within your current company, or have joined a new organisation with a team ready to go. Either way, Congratulations!  As exciting as this new opportunity is though, it can present some unique challenges and opportunities.  Inheriting a team that you didn't hire can be both exhilarating and daunting. It's a chance to showcase your leadership ability, but it also comes with the responsibility of navigatin...

Let's talk Leadership - what they don't teach you at uni with Shelley Johnson!

September 12, 2023 21:15 - 48 minutes - 44.6 MB

"Leadership is more than what meets the eye." When it comes to leadership, what we learn in a classroom setting only scratches the surface. The values, behaviours and impactful characteristics that make a true leader often go beyond formal reading and learning.  Join me in our latest episode as I engage in an insightful conversation with Shelley Johnson, a seasoned and impressive professional, Shelley has led human resources teams for over a decade, coaching executives and business own...

Navigating Change and Driving Culture with Nikos Psaltopoulos

August 29, 2023 21:15 - 37 minutes - 51.7 MB

In today's rapidly evolving world, organisations and individuals face the critical challenge of navigating change and driving culture. Adapting to new technologies, market shifts, and societal expectations is crucial for success. Effective change management and fostering a positive culture are key. This week, join us as we have an insightful conversation with Nikos Psaltopoulos, a C-suite leader and disruptor, who recently embarked on a new chapter in his career and life.  We explore t...

Are you an asker or a teller?

August 15, 2023 21:15 - 20 minutes - 28.7 MB

Are you an Asker or a Teller? This seemingly simple question holds significant importance when it comes to driving a culture of collaboration and growth within your team. Why does this matter? There are four key reasons in my opinion why adopting the role of an asker, rather than a teller, is vital. In this episode, we'll delve into why this approach is crucial for achieving better business outcomes, cultivating high-performing teams, and fostering critical thinking and trust. Join u...

Offboarding with Class

August 01, 2023 21:15 - 23 minutes - 31.6 MB

Have you ever considered the impact of your departure from an organisation, team, or department on your long-term career? Whether you're moving on to another organisation, team, or department, it's crucial to approach your departure professionally and with a long-term perspective in mind. Your career is not a short game, but a strategic journey, and how you handle your offboarding process can have a lasting impact. In this episode, we'll explore three key aspects of offboarding with clas...

5 Types of Difficult Colleagues and HOW to deal with them

July 18, 2023 21:15 - 30 minutes - 42.1 MB

Working in a collaborative environment often means encountering a diverse range of coworkers. While most colleagues are supportive and cooperative, there are times when we come across individuals who can pose challenges to our professional growth and productivity. Understanding different types of difficult colleagues is crucial in developing effective strategies to work with them.  It can be challenging to know exactly how to work with people who act like this. Avoiding these conflicts wit...

How to have a great mid-year performance conversation

July 04, 2023 21:15 - 26 minutes - 36.7 MB

Do you remember the last time you sat down for a performance review? Did it leave you feeling motivated, enthusiastic, and well-informed, ready to excel in your work? Well, for many employees, performance reviews can be quite the opposite. They can feel like a yearly obligation that causes anxiety, and can bring up a lot of negative emotions rather than inspiration.  Don’t worry, my friend. I’ve got some good news! By taking charge and actively participating in your mid-year performance ...

Dealing with Fear of Public Speaking

June 20, 2023 21:15 - 44 minutes - 61 MB

Whether presenting in front of a large audience or speaking up during a meeting, public speaking anxiety can be overwhelming and hinder personal and professional growth.  Fear not! If the thought of public speaking makes you frozen with fear, then this is the podcast episode for you. This week, I am joined by Shil Shanghavi, a public speaking specialist, storyteller and highly regarded speaker coach. Shil is redefining the meaning of public speaking by demonstrating its value across all ...

How to ask for a Pay Rise - Here are FOUR handy tips!

June 06, 2023 21:15 - 22 minutes - 30.3 MB

Asking for a raise can be a daunting task for many people, but it’s a crucial step in career development. With the right approach and preparation, you can increase your chances of getting a "YES" and securing the salary you deserve. While it does require careful research and preparation, following the right process and taking the time to do things correctly can boost your chances of success, as well as help you negotiate with confidence. As the saying goes, if you do not ask, you do not ...

How to nail your new role in your first 30 days!

May 23, 2023 21:15 - 28 minutes - 38.6 MB

Starting a new job can be both exciting and stressful. It's common to feel anxious during the first 30 days as you strive to make a good impression and learn the ropes quickly. It is an opportunity to learn new skills, meet new people, and take on new challenges. With this can mean heightened stress and overwhelm. But, it doesn’t have to be. To make this transition as smooth as possible, it's important to have an intentional plan of action. In this episode, I give you practical strateg...

Do you know your Career Non-Negotiables?

May 09, 2023 21:15 - 20 minutes - 27.8 MB

Knowing your career values, criteria or your non-negotiables is crucial to making informed decisions about your career path and finding greater fulfilment and satisfaction in your work.  Your career values are the principles and beliefs that are most important to you in your professional life.  They could include things like autonomy, creativity, financial stability, work-life balance, social impact, or personal growth. In this latest podcast episode, we discuss the importance of knowi...

Stand out at Work with your own personal USP!

April 25, 2023 21:15 - 26 minutes - 18.1 MB

In a world where competition reigns supreme, standing out from the crowd is more important than ever. Whether it's a new product, service, or brand; capturing the attention of your audience is crucial for success. A USP is not just a marketing concept, it's the heart and soul of business. And yet, for some reason, we never think about it when it comes to ourselves and how we show up in the workplace. What is YOUR unique differentiator that sets YOU apart from your competitors? In other...

Want to be Promoted? Do these FOUR things!

April 11, 2023 21:15 - 31 minutes - 21.3 MB

Climbing the career ladder and landing a promotion is an important goal for many professionals. Yet, it can be challenging to navigate the path to success and stand out among your peers.  To increase your chances of being promoted, it's important to be able to demonstrate your value to the company and show that you're ready for the next level. In this latest podcast episode, I'll be giving you FOUR handy tips to help you enhance your chances of getting that well-deserved promotion you’...

Creating your own Story with Rachael Fitzpatrick

March 28, 2023 21:15 - 42 minutes - 29.1 MB

Our stories are some of the most powerful, impactful, and persuasive tools we have within ourselves! People will listen to you because of YOUR narrative. People believe in your ability to relate to them and trust you to lead because of how you convey YOUR STORY. This is why knowing your story and HOW to convey your narrative is vital not only in leadership but also in life. But how exactly?  This week, I am joined by Rachael Fitzpatrick. Rachael has worked in Japan, the United Kingdom,...

How to improve your Relationships.

March 14, 2023 21:15 - 18 minutes - 12.5 MB

Our relationships play an important role in our personal AND professional lives and because of that we should be nurturing these relationships.  How often have you had a conversation with someone only to realise you had been the only one listening and asking questions the whole time? Or, perhaps you are the one who didn’t feel like you were able to reciprocate the same kind of genuine interest in the exchange?  Genuine curiosity is a simple ability, action and a habit that we frequently ...

Amplification with Dr. Katherine Iscoe

February 28, 2023 21:15 - 30 minutes - 20.9 MB

Amplifying your voice and being unapologetically yourself is one of the most powerful and impactful tools a person has. We often hear the advice "just be yourself, and it will be fine.", but no matter how good it sounds, it just feels too good to be true. In reality, it is more complex, and just being yourself can feel like it won’t be enough to help us reach our goals, or establish good connections. But is it really the case?  Let's dive into today's episode with Dr Katherine Iscoe. A k...

Twinning! Going against the Grain with my Twin, Adam.

February 15, 2023 21:15 - 49 minutes - 34.1 MB

Our lives can often be so heavily influenced by society and peer expectations, it’s not hard to lose sight of what we really want and what we’re truly passionate about. We can forget that this is OUR LIFE and at the end of the day, following your dream career or journey is up to YOU. This week I am joined by special guest and my twin brother Adam! We catch up on all things growing up, life and adventure, and he shares with us a glimpse of what life is like when you make the bold decision t...

5 things you NEED to be doing to drive your career success in 2023!

January 31, 2023 21:15 - 27 minutes - 18.6 MB

What plans do you have for your career growth this year? What are you committing to doing differently? If your plan for the year was to keep taking on extra projects and responsibilities and hoping that your manager or someone else will notice, then, my friend, we need to get a game plan in place for you STAT.  But where do you even begin? What ARE the critical steps that you should take to advance your career, and where do you begin? I’ve got you covered; in this latest poddy episode,...

We're BACK! 3 BIG Lessons I learnt in 2022!

January 17, 2023 21:15 - 27 minutes - 19 MB

Welcome to the Eating your Cake too podcast in 2023!  Are you a big believer in New Year's Resolutions? Do you wake up on the 1st Jan each year with a list of commitments you’re making to yourself for the year ahead? Personally, I rejected the idea of making New Year's resolutions a long time ago. I believe that for sustained success and motivation, we must regularly review our goals, not just once a year, but every day - consistently. I also believe that New Year's resolutions give us...

Saying NO in the Silly Season!

November 22, 2022 21:15 - 17 minutes - 12 MB

Do you feel like this time of the year gets a bit overwhelming at times? Do you feel like every time you open your calendar, there are more and more events in there? More and more invites. More and more emails saying “we must grab a coffee before the year is through”?  This podcast is to remind you that it is OK to say NO. It is OK to decline the 9th Christmas party you’ve been invited to. Or the coffee catch up with someone you haven’t seen all year, but is pushing to squeeze into you...

Embracing more feminine energy with Amanda Louisa

November 08, 2022 21:15 - 34 minutes - 23.5 MB

All of us have both a combination of masculine and feminine energy within us. Both of these energies have a unique impact on how we lead and how we show up at work.  Curious about which energy you are leaning into? So was I.  Let’s dive into today’s episode with Amanda Louisa, a sustainability specialist, feminine leadership coach, and recovering lawyer! We talk about embracing more feminine energy and finding the right balance between the masculine and feminine energy within us.  Aman...

How to ask for feedback that is actually helpful!

October 25, 2022 21:15 - 28 minutes - 19.3 MB

Do you find it difficult to gather helpful feedback from your team? Let me share a little secret with you - The quality of the way that you ask for your feedback will dictate the quality you get in return.  Most people begin by asking closed-ended questions for feedback. It doesn't always work well because it's easy to avoid answering with a yes or no question. So, if you truly want useful feedback. Ask for it tactfully, with open-ended questions. If you’re thinking about how to just d...

Preventing Churn and Burn in the Workplace with Marija Andacic

October 11, 2022 21:15 - 40 minutes - 28.1 MB

Genuine care and concern for workplace teams and relationships might sound simple, and yet it is something we all know we need more of and probably needs to be DOING more of too. It is what employees truly require from their employers. Caring entails being able to truly listen to others and be willing to hear what everyone on the team has to say around what they need and what they believe. In my latest podcast episode, I am joined by the wonderful Marija Andacic, an experienced, dynamic, a...

Think you want to be a Team Leader? Consider this first.

September 27, 2022 21:15 - 32 minutes - 22.6 MB

Are you currently a people manager or leader, or do you aspire to be? Have you ever stepped back and thought about WHY you want to lead a team?  I believe there are questions that we need to ask ourselves BEFORE we move into a role where we are responsible for achieving outcomes through others, and in this latest podcast episode, I talk about that and more!  I'll share with you what questions to ask yourself before aiming to move into a Team Leader position and I'll walk you through some...

Regaining your Sparkle with Ashley Speers

September 13, 2022 21:15 - 40 minutes - 27.7 MB

Have you ever had one of those moments in your life where you just know that something needs to change? Have you ever looked in the mirror and felt like the person staring back at you is a stranger? You are not alone. Listen in to this life-changing episode with the incredible Ashley Speers as she shares with us some of her own personal lessons and just how to rekindle that spark in you.  Ashley is a female inclusion and diversity activist who is over-talking about gender equity and is rea...

How to Get what you Want at Work!

August 30, 2022 20:15 - 37 minutes - 25.5 MB

Do you have something you want to ask for at work, but have absolutely NO idea where to start? Have you thought about what actions you need to start taking now in order to put your best foot forward?  In this episode, I’ll show you some key tips to help you get what YOU want at work. I’ll share with you what to do to have that conversation with your boss you’ve been wanting to. I’ll walk you through each stage of the process - before the conversation, during it, and after it to help you ma...

The role of men in lifting up women with Marcia Lawrence

August 16, 2022 21:15 - 40 minutes - 28 MB

In recent years, calls for gender equality have increased along with the need to close the gender wage gap. But even with the progress that has been made in this space,  there are still very few women in positions of leadership.  Today, I'm sharing with you a conversation with Marcia Lawrence, a Perth-based human resources specialist, about the gender stereotypes that play out in the way we work and live,  and how to be more aware of them.  Marcia Lawrence is a black belt in martial arts...

Where to start when you don't know what you want to do

August 02, 2022 20:15 - 29 minutes - 20.4 MB

Do you feel stuck or unsure about your current job or career path? When you hear the word “mid-career pivot” what feelings come up for you? Excitement? Or dread, fear and anxiety?  Almost all of us will experience feeling lost, unsure, or unmotivated at some point in our careers. And with people on average now engaging in between five and seven career paths in our lifetime, we are seeing more and more examples of people embracing the mid-career pivot. How do we get ourselves unstuck though...

The Power of Connection with Sarah Cordner

July 19, 2022 20:00 - 44 minutes - 30.6 MB

Are you a follower or a leader? Regardless of where you fall on the spectrum, I believe we can all agree that it is critical to learn to lead ourselves first. “leadership of others starts with leadership of self”.  Sarah Cordner, our guest on today's podcast, lives by this phrase. She is a certified coach with a passion for empowering professionals, particularly women, to become the leaders they want to be led by. She believes that there is a truly strong bond between knowing others an...

Are You Staying Relevant?

June 07, 2022 21:15 - 29 minutes - 20.1 MB

How can you make sure you stay relevant in your job? Relevant in your industry? Your company? These questions came up recently during a coaching session I was having with a private one-on-one client of mine. They felt that they had become so focussed on their day-to-day tasks that they couldn't recall the last time they took a step back and looked at their profession and industry from a more holistic perspective. They felt disheartened, and like they had lost or wasted time by not thinking a...

Let’s talk Performance with Emma Miller

May 24, 2022 20:15 - 55 minutes - 38 MB

Ever been curious about the conversations that take place behind closed doors when choices about promotions are made? Maybe you’ve wondered what else you can do to ensure you are recognised for your achievements? Or, perhaps you’ve wished you had the knowledge as to how you can strategically showcase your performance? In this episode, myself and special guest Emma Miller discuss the true definition of GREAT performance, as well as how to negotiate the promotion you desire. Prepare your not...

Get noticed at work without being the loudest in the room

May 10, 2022 20:15 - 22 minutes - 15.3 MB

Do you ever feel ignored, unheard, or unnoticed at work? Even if you want to speak up and be heard more, perhaps you’re afraid of coming across as arrogant or stepping on other people's toes. You have some great ideas about how to make things better. However, you seem to get spoken over or left behind when it comes to putting it out into the world. “How can you get noticed without being the loudest person in the room?” That's what I'll be discussing in today's episode. I'll go through e...

A Career and a Family aren't mutually exclusive with Jodi Geddes

April 26, 2022 20:15 - 33 minutes - 22.7 MB

How do you juggle the responsibility of raising kids while making a living in a world that demands almost everything of us? Many people will tell you that having a career while raising a child is impossible. They'll tell you that you have to choose between the two; that you can't have it both ways. And no matter how hard you try, there will be times when work bleeds into your personal life and vice versa. However, that doesn’t mean that having a career and being a parent are mutually exclusi...

How self-aware are you, really?

April 12, 2022 20:00 - 22 minutes - 15.4 MB

For those who have worked with me in the past (or maybe you do currently), you’ll know that I often talk about the importance of knowing who you are. The importance of being self-aware. Why? Because if we don’t know ourselves at our core; how we react under pressure, what our triggers are, our drivers, motivators, etc, then all the other stuff that we try to implement won’t have the impact we want it to. We won’t get the results we really want.  In this episode, we’re going to dive deep i...

How to Make Decisions with Bethan Winn

March 29, 2022 20:00 - 40 minutes - 28.1 MB

Every one of us struggles with decisions at one point or another in our lives. There’s a body of research stating that we make about 30,000 decisions a day. Just in one day! But, it’s often the big things, the major decisions that can create the overwhelm and the paralysis that come when we feel stuck in what is the ‘right’ decision to make.      When we don’t stop to think about our decisions, or we make them by default, we can find ourselves looking up and around 2, 3, 5, 10 years later ...

Dressing with Confidence with Jessie Jolly

March 15, 2022 20:00 - 36 minutes - 25.3 MB

Ever feel like you have a closet full of clothes but nothing to wear? Do you keep clothes that don’t fit anymore and think to yourself, “one day, I’ll be able to wear this again”, and it just keeps taking up space in your wardrobe?  Perhaps all of us have been there at some point in our lives. In this episode, together with Jessie Jolly –professional personal stylist, we’ll talk about all things clothes, confidence and rocking them in your career!     In our conversation we talk about the ...

The Art of Saying NO Without the After-Guilt!

March 01, 2022 20:00 - 22 minutes - 30.6 MB

Do you have trouble saying no to people even though you know you're already stretched too thin? Do you finally work up the courage to say no only to find yourself immediately filled with guilt afterwards? In our latest podcast episode,  I share with you the importance of learning to say no as a healthy part of taking care of ourselves. I also share a piece of advice I received a few years ago that really changed the way I look at things! I also share with you a clear four step framework th...

Why You NEED a Career Sponsor!

February 15, 2022 20:00 - 17 minutes - 23.8 MB

What is a career sponsor, how can having one benefit you, and how can you get one? In today’s episode, we explore the differences between coaches, mentors, and sponsors, and we talk about how each one can benefit you - with a focus on SPONSORS! I’ll tell you all about what sponsors can do for you, why you need one, and what you can do to find one. We’ll also talk about effective ways to choose the right sponsor who both knows you and also is in the room where decisions are being made! AND ...

Here is your 2022 Career Game Plan!

February 01, 2022 20:00 - 28 minutes - 39.5 MB

What is your career game plan? How are you building your career currency so that you are setting yourself up for success and fulfillment in 2022? In this episode I talk you through the four KEY focus areas that I believe WILL help you with your career and leadership success: (1) Brand YOU (2) Relationships (3) Performance, and (4) Growth and Learning. Get out your pen and paper because in this hands-on and practical episode, I’ll talk you through exactly how you can get yourself set up for s...

Relationship Currency is QUEEN - Here is What You Need to Know!

January 11, 2022 20:00 - 27 minutes - 38.3 MB

Happy New Year to you all! To start off 2022, I share a little bit about what I like to focus on at the start of each new year - SPOILER ALERT, these aren't new year's resolutions. Instead, I consider questions like “who do I want to be as a human,” and “how am I actually contributing to a better world” at the start of this new year!  Then we dive right into today's topic - the power of relationship currency! I share about how relationship currency works, ways that you can track it, and ho...

Building Remarkable Leaders with Shane Hatton

December 21, 2021 20:00 - 57 minutes - 78.7 MB

Have you been wondering how to be a better leader today while also planning more effectively for tomorrow? Listen in to this amazing conversation between Claire and Shane Hatton, an expert in developing remarkable people leaders, to learn more ways to SHOW UP in your workplace and to EXCEL as a leader no matter what position in the Organisation you are in.  We talk about important topics such as middle management, what to do when you lack confidence, and HOW and WHY to give effective feedb...

Birthday Episode - I Share My Major Career Lessons!

December 07, 2021 20:00 - 38 minutes - 52.4 MB

It's my birthday (sound the alarms - whhooooop!)! And to celebrate with you today, I'm going to share my TOP tips for how to improve your career based on my own personal lessons! Yep, I am stepping back, taking the time to reflect on what I've learned over the course of my career thus far AND am paying it forward to all of you listening to the podcast! Listen in to hear me share some pitfalls I've hit and ones that commonly affect many of us, and then consider HOW you can take action to ma...

Why Just Working Harder Isn't Going to Get You Your Next Promotion!

November 23, 2021 20:00 - 25 minutes - 35.5 MB

Are you looking for more career opportunities and wondering why your hard work isn't resulting in more chances to grow? In this episode, I talk with you about why JUST working harder, which women in particular are often conditioned to do, isn't enough to get the promotion and stretch opportunities to come our way. I talk about the culture of presenteeism and how that can contribute to this mindset and can lead to burn out, and then I explore ACTION items to help you address this challenge.  ...