Down The Rabbit Holes
367 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 1 year ago - ★★★★ - 581 ratingsExploring the Theories of Missing Persons Cases.
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S1 Ep176: Prisma Reyes
April 11, 2023 00:25 - 26 minutes26 year old Prisma Reyes left work for lunch in Dallas, TX and vanished. Her son and family desperately seek answers as to what happened. If you have any information related to Prisma’s disappearance please contact the Mesquite Police Department at 972-285-6336. Anonymous tips can also be submitted online via North Texas Crime Stoppers or by calling its tip line at 877-373-8477 Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from...
S1 Ep175: Suzanne Lyall
April 03, 2023 23:51 - 34 minutesOn March 2, 1998, 19 year old Suzanne Lyall left work at the mall in Albany, NY and vanished. Her family still seeks answers as to what happened. If you have any information, please contact the New York State Police at 519-783-3211. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website at: www.downtherabbitholespodcast.com Join Pat...
S1 Ep174: Brittney Wood
March 28, 2023 13:36 - 34 minutes*We apologize in advance for the audio quality in some places, but we didn't want to scratch the episode*. On May 30, 2012, 19 year old Brittney Wood left her Mom’s house in Mobile, Alabama and vanished shortly after. What happens next is baffling. If you have any information about Brittney or any of the surrounding events, please contact the Mobile Police Department at 251-208-7211. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research c...
S1 Ep173: Joseph Force Crater
March 21, 2023 00:08 - 33 minutesAround 9pm on August 6, 1930, Judge Joseph Force Crater left a restaurant and has never been heard from again. With the circumstances around his disappearance, he was declared legally dead in 1939, and his case – Missing Persons File No. 13595 – was officially closed in 1979 - but there are still no answers. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material a...
S1 Ep172: Mike McClain
March 14, 2023 00:06 - 27 minutes29 year old Mike McClain went out for the evening with some friends in Nashua, NH on April 20, 2019 never to be heard from again. His parents desperately seek answers. If you or anyone you know has any information about Mike or the events that evening, please contact the Nashua Police Department at 603-594-3500. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source materi...
S1 Ep171: Danielle Bell
March 07, 2023 00:51 - 32 minutes14 year old Danielle Bell vanished from a friend’s party in Cantonment, Florida on September 30, 2001. Her family still desperately seeks answers as to what may have happened. If you any information about Danielle or the party, please contact the Escambia County Sheriff's Office at 850-436-9620. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos ar...
S1 Ep170: Relisha Rudd
February 28, 2023 00:37 - 28 minutes8 year old Relisha Rudd was last seen in Washington D.C. on March 1, 2014. If you have any information, please contact the Metropolitan Police Department at 202-265-9100 Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website at: www.downtherabbitholespodcast.com Join Patreon for extra content and ad free episodes: https://www.patreon...
S1 Ep169: Colleen Perris
February 21, 2023 00:49 - 32 minutesOn September 30, 2000, 18 year old Colleen Perris left her parent’s home in Plantation, Florida around 3p with plans to be back within a few hours. Colleen has never been seen or heard from again. If you or anyone you know has any information about Colleen or what may have happened that day, please contact the Plantation Police Department at 954-797-2118. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available so...
S1 Ep168: Alexis Ware
February 14, 2023 00:29 - 33 minutesOn January 28, 2022, 29 year old Alexis Ware left a 7-Eleven gas station off Highway 29 in Anderson, SC - alone. She has never been seen since. Her friends, family, and children seek answers. If you have any information regarding the disappearance of Alexis Ware please contact the Anderson County Sheriff’s Office at (864) 260-4400, or Crime Stoppers at 1-888-CRIME-SC. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly...
S1 Ep167: Matthew Weaver Jr
February 07, 2023 00:15 - 35 minutesMatthew Weaver Jr. vanished in the early morning hours of August 10, 2018, from the Malibu canyons area of California. He had been out with a friend the night before, and seemingly vanished. Matthew’s family desperately seeks answers as to what may have happened. If you have any information about the disappearance or what happened to Matthew, please contact the Los Angeles Police Department’s Missing Persons Unit at 213-996-1800. Anyone wishing to remain anonymous should call the Los Angeles...
S1 Ep166: Kirsten Brueggeman
January 31, 2023 00:24 - 26 minutes26 year old Kirsten Brueggeman left her friends outside a bar just after midnight on January 2, 2021 in Indianapolis, Indiana. Anyone with information should contact the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department's missing persons unit at (317) 327-6160 or online at [email protected]. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are o...
S1 Ep165: Susan Swedell
January 24, 2023 14:42 - 34 minutes19 year old Susan Swedell left work on the evening of January 19, 1988 in Lake Elmo, Minnesota during some snow. She told family she was headed home, but never arrived. Her family still seeks answers as to what may have happened. If you have any information, please contact the Washington County Sheriff's Office at 651-430-7810. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives ...
S1 Ep164: Kaitlyn Ledbetter
January 17, 2023 00:25 - 25 minutesIn the early morning hours of May 2, 2021, 25 year old Kaitlyn Ledbetter ran from her home in Hilham, Tennessee and has never been seen since. If you have any information, please contact the Overton County Sheriff's Office at 931-823-5635. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website at: www.downtherabbitholespodcast.com J...
S1 Ep163: Jason Jolkowski
January 10, 2023 00:00 - 27 minutesOn the June 13, 2001, 19 year old Jason Jolkowski left his home on foot and headed to meet at co-worker at the local high school in Omaha, Nebraska to get a ride to work. Jason’s family still seeks answers as to what may have happened that day. If you have any information, please contact the Omaha Police Department at 402-444-5657 or Det Jeff Shelbourn at 402-444-4122. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicl...
S1 Ep162: Jennifer Marcum
December 20, 2022 15:39 - 28 minutesOn February 17, 2003, 25 year old Jennifer Marcum parked her vehicle near the Denver International Airport in Denver, Colorado. She has never been seen or heard from since. Jennifer's siblings still seek answers as to what may have happened. If you have any information, please contact the Federal Bureau of Investigation 303-629-7171. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdete...
S1 Ep161: Dannette & Jeannette Millbrook
December 13, 2022 01:59 - 32 minutesOn the afternoon/evening of March 18, 1990 in Augusta, Georgia, 15 year old twins Dannette & Jeannette Millbrook left a gas station, and walked toward home - never to be seen again. Siblings and Mom still desperately seek answers. If you have any information, please contact the Richmond County Sheriff's Office 706-821-1096. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All ...
S1 Ep160: Amber Cates
December 06, 2022 00:04 - 24 minutesOn April 11, 2004, 16 year old Amber Cates left her home in Maury County, Tennessee and vanished. Her sister is still seeking answers. If you have any information, please contact the Maury County Sheriff's Department at 931-380-5733 or 931-388-5151. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website at: www.downtherabbitholespod...
S1 Ep159: Dail Dinwiddie
November 22, 2022 00:00 - 27 minutesIn the early morning hours of September 24, 1992, 23 year old Dail Dinwiddie left a bar on foot in Columbia, South Carolina. She vanished into thin air. If you have any information, please contact the Columbia Police Department at 803-233-8474. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website at: www.downtherabbitholespodcast.c...
S1 Ep158: Sunny Sramek
November 08, 2022 16:22 - 23 minutesOn April 20, 2019, 18 year old Sunny Sramek left her home in Trenton, Nebraska. She was en route to Omaha, Nebraska. She has never been seen again. If you have any information, please contact either the Hitchcock County Sheriff's Office at 308-334-5444 or the Federal Bureau of Investigation at 402-493-8688. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material a...
S1 Ep157: Jesse Warren Ross
November 01, 2022 02:43 - 31 minutesOn November 21, 2006 in Chicago, IL,19 year old Jesse Warren Ross left a meeting inside the Sheraton hotel at at 2:30am and vanished. If you have any information, please contact the Chicago Police Department at 312-744-8266. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website at: www.downtherabbitholespodcast.com Join Patreon fo...
S1 Ep156: Marcia Ryan
October 24, 2022 23:30 - 30 minutesOn August 19, 1996, 33 year old Marcia Ryan left her home in Seaford, Victoria, Australia sometime after 10:40pm to begin a 3 day drive. She has never been seen by friends or family again. If you have any information, please call Australia's National Missing Persons Unit at 1800 000 634 Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our w...
S1 Ep155: Korrina Malinoski and Annette Sagers
October 17, 2022 23:53 - 31 minutes26 year old Korrina Malinoski vanished on November 20, 1987. Less than a year later, on October 4, 1988, her daugher, 11 year old Annette Sagers vanished from her bus stop in Mount Holly, South Carolina. If you have any information about either disappearance, please contact the Berkeley County Sheriff's Office at 803-761-7190 or 803-737-9000. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armch...
S1 Ep155: Ranelle Rose Bennett
October 10, 2022 23:22 - 26 minutes33 year old Ranelle Rose Bennett left her mother's house in Hogback, New Mexico on June 15, 2021 - just days before her daughter's birthday - and was never seen again. Her mother and children desperately seek answers as to her disappearance. If you have any information, you can contact the Navajo Nation Police Department - Shiprock District 505-368-1350 or the Bureau of Indian Affairs - Office of Justice Services 505-563-3600. https://www.change.org/p/hold-the-bureau-of-indian-affairs-acco...
S1 Ep154: Ali Gilmore
September 25, 2022 23:59 - 35 minutesOn February 3, 2006, 30 year old Ali Gilmore missed a scheduled appointment. Ali was pregnant and excited about her upcoming baby. Ali was separated from her husband, but working on reconciling. Ali’s family seeks answers as to her disappearance. If you have any information, please contact the Tallahassee Police Department at 850-891-4200. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchair...
S1 Ep153: Justice for Hae and a breakdown of why Adnan is innocent.
September 19, 2022 22:27 - 1 hourOkay y’all. This is was a VIP Patreon bonus from Jan 2021 but in celebration of Adnan’s release and kicking off what HOPEFULLY is Justice for Hae… we wanted to share it. PLEASE NOTE: this is older audio and we are much more candid on patreon, so be warned. This was suppose to be a 20 min bonus episode...sorry you got a thesis. :) January 13, 1999: Hae Min Lee was in school like a normal day, and she didn’t show up to pick up her younger cousin from daycare at 3:15p. February 9, 1999 H...
S1 Ep152: Trevor Deely
September 13, 2022 21:43 - 39 minutesOn December 8, 2000 22 year old Trevor Deely attended a Christmas party for his employer in Dublin Ireland. He began the walk home and vanished. If you have any information, the Gardaí at Pearse Street Garda Station are investigating - Telephone 01 666 9000. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website at: www.downtherabbit...
S1 Ep151: Ashley Loring Heavyrunner
August 30, 2022 02:00 - 32 minutesOn June 5, 2017, 20 year old Ashley Loring Heavyrunner was last seen by friends in Browning, Montana on the Blackfeet Reservation. Ashley’s family seeks answers as to where she may have vanished to. If you have any information, please contact Blackfeet Law Enforcement Services at 406-338-4000, Browning Police Department 406-338-4000, or FBI's Salt Lake City Field Office at (801) 579-1400. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our resear...
S1 Ep150: Ashley Summers
August 22, 2022 23:30 - 29 minutes14 year old Ashley Summers attended a family party on the 4th of July 2007 in Cleveland, OH. She left the party and shortly after she vanished. Ashley’s Mom and siblings desperately seek answers as to where Ashley may be. If you have any information, please contact the Cleveland Police Department at 216-623-5005. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source mate...
S1 Ep149: Lydia "Dia" Abrams
August 15, 2022 23:45 - 32 minutesOn June 6, 2020, 65 year old Dia Abrams vanished from her ranch located east of Idyllwild in Riverside County, California. Dia’s children seek answers as to what may have happened. If you have any information, please contact the Riverside County Sheriff's Office at 951-955-2450. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website ...
S1 Ep148: Andrew Gosden
August 08, 2022 23:03 - 32 minutes14 year old Andrew Gosden left his home in the Balby area of Doncaster, England on September 14, 2007 and headed to school. Andrew never arrived, and has never been seen by his family again. If anyone has any information about Andrew (or what happened to him) this should be passed to Missing People on 116000 (call or text) or South Yorkshire Police on 101. If anonymity is needed the information can be passed to CrimeStoppers on 08 00 555 111. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opini...
S1 Ep147: Tracy Ocasio
August 02, 2022 00:38 - 36 minutesOn May 27, 2009, 27 year old Tracy Ocasio left the Florida Tap Room in Orlando, Florida at 2:30 a.m. to seemingly vanish. Tracy’s family seeks answers as to her disappearance. If you have any information, please contact the Ocoee Police Department at 407-905-3160. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website at: www.downthe...
S1 Ep146: Susy Tomassi
July 25, 2022 23:49 - 32 minutesIn Vero Beach, FL on March 16, 2018, 73 year old Susy Tomassi left her restaurant that she ran with her husband and walked down the street and vanished. Susy’s family desperately seeks answers as to what may have happened. If you have any information, please contact the Indian River County Sheriff's Office at 772-978-6120. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All s...
S1 Ep145: Marshal Iwaasa
July 18, 2022 23:03 - 46 minutesNovember 17, 2019, 26 year old Marshal Iwaasa left his mother's house in Lethbridge Alberta, headed to a storage unit then back to Calgary. His family desperately seeks answers as to what may have happened that evening and in the following days. If you have any information, please contact Crime Stoppers by calling 1-800-222-8477 or online at www.p3tips.com Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available s...
S1 Ep144: Danica Childs
July 12, 2022 00:32 - 32 minutesOn December 21, 2007, in Federal Way, Washington, 17 year old Danica Childs did not make a shopping trip with her family. She was reported missing, but there are no answers some 15 years later. If you have any information about Danica, please contact the Federal Way Police Department at 253-835-6856. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photo...
S1 Ep143: John Cheek
June 27, 2022 23:10 - 32 minutesDisclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website at: www.downtherabbitholespodcast.com Join Patreon for extra content and ad free episodes: https://www.patreon.com/downtherabbitholespod Subscribe and then follow us and join the discussion on Instagram and Facebook at DownTheRabbitHolesPodcast Contact us at theories@downtherabb...
S1 Ep142: Cole Thomas
June 20, 2022 23:00 - 30 minutesChristopher Cole Thomas vanished from his vehicle in Benson, North Carolina on November 25, 2016. Despite arrests and potential confessions, we are no closer to what happened to Cole than we were in 2016. If you have any information about Cole or his disappearance, please contact the Benson Police Department at 919-894-2091 or the North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation at 919-779-8188 or 800-334-3000. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The major...
S1 Ep141: John Spira
June 13, 2022 23:00 - 38 minutes45 year old John Spira vanished on February 23, 2007 from his business. Despite family efforts, no answers have been found. If you have any information, please contact the St. Charles Police Department at 630-443-3731. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website at: www.downtherabbitholespodcast.com Join Patreon for extra...
S1 Ep140: Blaine Hector
June 06, 2022 23:00 - 30 minutes30 year old Blaine Hector vanished from the woods behind his father’s house in Cornish, New Hampshire on December 24, 2001. He left behind a wife, kids, and his family who are still searching for answers. If you have any information, please contact the Cornish Police Department at 603-543-0535 or New Hampshire State Police at 603-271-2663. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchai...
S1 Ep139: The Jack Family
May 23, 2022 23:02 - 33 minutesOn August 2, 1989, in Prince George, British Columbia - the Jack family - Doreen (26), Ronnie (26), Russell (9), and Ryan (4) loaded up their life for a few weeks to explore a potential new job just out of town. No one has heard from them again. If you have any information about their whereabouts - please contact the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) at +1 250-561-3300. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publ...
S1 Ep138: Brandy Hanna
May 16, 2022 23:00 - 34 minutes32 year old Brandy Hanna vanished from her North Charleston, SC apartment on May 20, 2005. Brandy’s family still seeks information and answers as to Brandy’s disappearance. If you have any information about Brandy or her disappearance, please contact the North Charleston Police Department at 843-745-1015. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and...
S1 Ep137: Audrey Moate
May 09, 2022 23:00 - 39 minutesOn November 24, 1956, then 31 year old Audrey Moate went missing from LaPlace, LA. Audrey’s children still seek answers as to what may have happened. If you have any information about Audrey or her whereabouts or what happened, please contact the St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff's Office at 985-652-9513. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material a...
S1 Ep136: Sara Nicole Graham
May 03, 2022 00:24 - 28 minutesOn February 4, 2015, 18 year old Sara Nicole Graham went missing while on her drive to work in Fairmont, North Carolina around 6:30 a.m.. Her family seeks answers as to what may have happened. If you know anything about Sara’s disappearance, please contact the Robeson County Sheriff's Office at 910-671-3170 or FBI's Charlotte Field Office at (704) 672-6100. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available ...
S1 Ep135: William & Margaret
April 26, 2022 00:30 - 38 minutesOn March 6, 1957 William and Margaret Patterson vanished from their home in El Paso, Texas. They left behind a successful business and have never been heard from again. If you have any information, please contact the El Paso County Sheriff's Office at 915-538-2291. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website at: www.downth...
S1 Ep134: Jesse Conger
April 18, 2022 23:00 - 27 minutes37 year old Jesse Conger left his girlfriend’s Scottsdale apartment on Aug. 14, 2019 to never be seen again. If you have any information on Jesse or his whereabouts - please contact the Scottsdale Police Department at 480-312-5000 or contact Patricia at [email protected]. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our webs...
133: Suzanne Morphew
April 12, 2022 00:12 - 36 minutes49 year old, mother of two, Suzanne Morphew vanished from her home (or from nearby) just outside Salida, Colorado on May 10, 2020. Her mountain bike was discovered by sheriff's deputies on the side of a cliff off a road near the family home. Her husband Barry Morphew has been arrested…but is that the end? If you have any information, please contact The Chaffee County Sheriff's Office at 719-539-2596. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of...
Veronica Reyes-Diaz
March 28, 2022 23:00 - 37 minutes - 36.8 MB23 year old Veronica Reyes-Diaz was seen at her home in Dover, Florida in the early morning hours of January 18, 2020 when she tucked her kids into bed. She has never been seen again. If you have any information about Veronica’s disappearance, please contact the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office at 813-247-8200. You can report suspected human trafficking by calling the National Human Trafficking Hotline at 1-888-373-7888. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on o...
132: Veronica Reyes-Diaz
March 28, 2022 23:00 - 37 minutes23 year old Veronica Reyes-Diaz was seen at her home in Dover, Florida in the early morning hours of January 18, 2020 when she tucked her kids into bed. She has never been seen again. If you have any information about Veronica’s disappearance, please contact the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office at 813-247-8200. You can report suspected human trafficking by calling the National Human Trafficking Hotline at 1-888-373-7888. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on o...
Cieha Taylor
March 21, 2022 23:00 - 37 minutes - 35.6 MB28 year old Cieha Taylor was seen in Plant City, Florida on February 6, 2020 when she dropped her boyfriend off at his friend’s house. She has never been seen again. If you have any information about Cieha’s disappearance, please contact the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office at 813-247-8200. You can report suspected human trafficking by calling the National Human Trafficking Hotline at 1-888-373-7888. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majori...
131: Cieha Taylor
March 21, 2022 23:00 - 37 minutes28 year old Cieha Taylor was seen in Plant City, Florida on February 6, 2020 when she dropped her boyfriend off at his friend’s house. She has never been seen again. If you have any information about Cieha’s disappearance, please contact the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office at 813-247-8200. You can report suspected human trafficking by calling the National Human Trafficking Hotline at 1-888-373-7888. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majori...
Ronald Tammen
March 14, 2022 23:00 - 42 minutes - 43.2 MBOn April 19, 1953, 19 year old Ronald Tammen got sheets from his dorm mom around 8:30p and made his bed, and then vanished from his dorm room in Oxford, Ohio while studying at Miami University. If you have information contact Butler County Sheriff's Office at (513) 785-1300. Disclaimer: All theories discussed are our opinions based on our research. The majority of our research comes from publicly available sources. #armchairdetectives All source material and photos are on our website at: ...