For gigantic episode number 150, we chat with old pal Charlie about getting into podcasting, trying to grow audiences when creating art, attempting to be a musician to make money and trying to break through the noise, and the importance of focusing on yourself. Plus, frustrations with lack of opportunity, the concept of fair treatment, developing a gimmick, and wondering if all press is good press.


Charlie is the Musical Director at Garage Band U and plays in the Chicago area based band Radar. Their latest album is called "Goodnight Nurse"


https://www.belowthecollar.com/radar


https://www.facebook.com/RadarChicago/


https://radarchicago.bandcamp.com/


https://katzulhu.com/radar


You can contact Charlie for drum lessons at https://www.patreon.com/Challz and charliethorntondrums.com


Paul works a day job and puts out vinyl and puts on shows via Katzulhu Productions


https://www.facebook.com/paul.neil.12


https://www.facebook.com/katzulhu