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Don't call it a book club.

270 episodes - English - Latest episode: 13 days ago - ★★★★ - 37 ratings

Luke and Dan discuss books and other media in the sci-fi/fantasy genre with unexpected theories and controversial opinions. Looking for a podcast that makes you smarter? Maybe keep looking.

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The Way of Kings: Part One

December 24, 2020 22:22 - 58 minutes - 51.6 MB

Of course Luke and Dan are gonna talk about the limitations of having a safehand and the power of these eyebrows. Luke points out which spren would be the most embarrassing to see and Dan postulates about what to transform this rock into. Finally, this family doesn't need money they need therapy ASAP. Happy Holidays! Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Rage of Dragons: Part Three

December 17, 2020 17:01 - 1 hour - 139 MB

Today we're starting off with a rant that everyone is going to relate to (skip to 6:30 for Rage of Dragons). I'm not the bravest person in the world but surrendering in this case seems great, right? Also find out why Tau is all brawn and no brains and who is winning in the demon world leaderboard. Next week we are starting the Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson, read the first quarter of the book! Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music!

Rage of Dragons: Part Two

December 10, 2020 16:47 - 59 minutes - 51.8 MB

Dan may have his dumbest warm-up rant yet and Luke decides to add his own magic to the mix (9:45 to skip). Dan is pissed about the Chosen's abstinence only education BS. Luke isn't very on board with these "Gifted" and the boys take a strong position against ableism. Also if anyone can send us a picture of an avocado tree that would be super useful for part of a future discussion I am sure. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Rage of Dragons: Part One

December 03, 2020 16:40 - 1 hour - 144 MB

If you were worried about Dan after last episode let us put your fears to rest before getting to the book. Finally we're back to dragons, and we're already going deep into the pros and cons of dragon scale swords. Big winner for this section; wood! Have we been underrating good quality wood? And yes Dan mispronounces Lekan this whole episode. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Furies of Calderon: Part Three

November 26, 2020 17:41 - 1 hour - 52.6 MB

Luke is concerned that he may be sharing too much, and Dan definitely shares too much (please skip to 6:00). Dan needs to get deeper into a comment from the subreddit. Luke and Dan have some suggestions for this empire, mostly fortifications based. Lastly, but most importantly, smash the patriarchy. First third of The Rage of Dragons by Evan Winter next week! Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Furies of Calderon: Part Two

November 19, 2020 16:31 - 1 hour - 148 MB

A double warmup for this episode, skip to 9:40 if you're only interested in Furies of Calderon. Dan updates his Tavi theory and brings us way out on a limb. Bernard is coming off way too good in this book so we've got to take him down a peg or two. And Dan has a great new opportunity that he wants to pitch to the Marat. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Furies of Calderon: Part One

November 12, 2020 21:04 - 1 hour - 54.8 MB

Did anything exciting happen this week? Luke and Dan can't think of anything (4:50 to skip). Dan leads Luke immediately astray on the pronunciation of Amara's name but they are sticking with it. Are these Cursors extremely busy or extremely lazy? Dan wants to know why fantasy worlds are so in love with dictatorships and empires, while Luke is amazed by the ability to move a sword so fast that you lose track of the blade. Also it is time to reclaim the word slive because clearly people aren't...

To Sleep in a Sea of Stars: Part Three

November 05, 2020 17:53 - 1 hour - 165 MB

Incredibly hot take to open this one, skip to 5:30 if you don't want to get mad at Luke and just want to hear about the ending of to Sleep in a Sea of Stars. We're changing our vote for most overrated characters and I feel pretty good about the newest candidates. Also let's talk about this gift giving ceremony, did someone get stiffed here? Next week we are reading Furies of Calderon by Jim Butcher, thanks to reddit user u/LonerActual for the suggestion! Special thanks to VOLO for the intr...

To Sleep in a Sea of Stars: Part Two

October 29, 2020 17:25 - 55 minutes - 49.2 MB

Cryotubes: do we want them or naw? Luke wants to talk about the most boring part of this book AGAIN. Also, Kira clearly needs to get a face tattoo and Dan is hoping for this book to take a radical turn near the end. Who the eff is approving hornets? Goodbye, little insect. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

To Sleep in a Sea of Stars: Part One

October 22, 2020 16:59 - 1 hour - 137 MB

This is a long book and we read a third of it so make sure you get to Part II Chapter 11 before listening. As always Dan is incredibly suspicious and wants us to question everything. We go deep into some of the details of the new technology. For example these neural implants, are you getting them? Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Wintersteel: Part Two

October 15, 2020 15:42 - 1 hour - 67.4 MB

Luke and Dan shout out correct predictions from the /r/Iteration110Cradle subreddit (follow us on twitter @DCitaBC for those embarrassing tweets). Dan thinks Mercy got a raw deal and Luke reveals some of the underlying variables behind the creation of Crusher. Also get ready for a discussion of the moral implications of what Lindon and Yerin have been up to because the boys aren't sure who the good guys are anymore. Next week: first third of To Sleep in a Sea of Stars by Christopher Paolini!...

Wintersteel: Part One

October 08, 2020 17:58 - 1 hour - 148 MB

To mark the excitement of the new Cradle book Dan is starting this episode with a great theory addressing a classic Cradle question. We're diving deep into the politics of this world; find out what major policy Eithan is endorsing. Next week we're finishing Wintersteel, keep an eye out for any correctly predicted theories! Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Wintersteel Fan Theories

October 05, 2020 19:50 - 1 hour - 53.5 MB

Luke and Dan disprove a whole barrel of theories from the /r/Iteration110Cradle subreddit in anticipation of the Wintersteel release tomorrow. The rules: 1. If Luke or Dan can refute any part of the comment, they have disproven your theory. 2. If anyone's theory or prediction is correct, Luke and Dan will tweet and embarrassing fact about themselves @WilliamWight. If you are as excited about Wintersteel as the boys are, join in on the fun at the /r/Iteration110Cradle subreddit or on the podc...

Napolean Dynamite

October 01, 2020 18:40 - 57 minutes - 132 MB

Hey remember Napolean Dynamite? We decided to give it a rewatch and share our thoughts. We're digging deep into all of the scenes that you thought were meaningless. No spoilers here but this episode is just a bundle of joy. Give it a watch and then tune in. Thank you to BurghRecords for the futuristic sound effect and special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Sword of Kaigen: Part Three

September 24, 2020 16:56 - 1 hour - 162 MB

To get warmed up today Dan goes on a rollercoaster of emotions with his perspective on gift cards (skip to 8:45 for book discussion). As we finish up the Sword of Kaigen we're again diving deep into the macroeconomics and incentives of the communities in a book. If you've got a moment please spare a prayer for THE WIND CHILD, she's gonna have it rough. Stay tuned to our social media channels to get access to our poems for next week which we will release on Tuesday. Special thanks to VOLO f...

Sword of Kaigen: Part Two

September 17, 2020 19:02 - 56 minutes - 51 MB

Can you guess who Luke and Dan are going to be dunking on for most of this episode? Probably because he is an absolute monster. The boys speculate about the amazing non-combat uses of water magic, specifically the cuisine. Be warned, there is a little bit of toilet humor in this episode but I promise it is totally warranted. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Sword of Kaigen: Part One

September 10, 2020 16:39 - 51 minutes - 119 MB

Dan doesn't understand the concept of a warm up so don't skip the intro on this one . Luke has a fool proof method of winning one of these duels and it's all about climate control folks. Dan asks the age old question; why are we using swords? And yes we do have an answer... sort of. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Short Stories by JY Neon Yang (feat. Colored Pages Book Club)

September 03, 2020 16:26 - 1 hour - 74 MB

Luke and Dan join forces with Ako and Marci of the Colored Pages Book Club to talk about Auspicium Melioris Aevi and Patterns of a Murmuration, In Billions of Data Points by JY Neon Yang. This is one of the smartest discussions on this entire podcast; the squad talks about the implications of capitalism on human worth and whether or not AI can love. But don't worry, they also talk about the dating implications of a massive cloning operation and revenge by Barbie tank so it gets pretty dumb t...

The Black Prism: Part Three

August 20, 2020 14:24 - 1 hour - 60.7 MB

How much you wanna make a bet Luke could throw a football over them mountains? (4:05 to skip the Napoleon Dynamite fan segment) Dan is still not convinced about the goodness or badness of these brothers and Luke needs to be on the committee designing this wall. We also desperately need an answer as to why Dan's solution has not gained more popularity in this world. Seems pretty obvious y'all. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

The Black Prism: Part Two

August 13, 2020 17:05 - 1 hour - 144 MB

Orholam sent a message via recording issues that a warm up will not be welcome in this episode so we jump straight into the book. A certain clothing based prank gives us some more fuel for our good brother/bad brother debate and honestly it's not looking good. We love to see the inclusion of some TLC in this section, no not the singers, I'm talking the chromatography. Also let us know your thoughts on King Garadul, are you defecting with us? Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro mu...

The Black Prism: Part One

August 06, 2020 17:54 - 1 hour - 58 MB

Luke starts us off with some serious introvert energy (7:00 to skip this karaoke rant). Luke and Dan already have a few suggestions for how to improve this prison. It may involve Eiffel 65. Dan learns about a new fitness contraption and Luke gives a glowing endorsement of King Garadul. Just kidding, this guy is terrible. Also who is signing up for extra credit at the Chromeria!? Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

On the Shoulders of Titans: Part Three

July 30, 2020 14:02 - 1 hour - 189 MB

Dan brings back a beloved segment, find out the connection between business suits and water parks (or skip to 8:30). Luke is a huge fan of alley-oops in fights as well as well timed winks while Dan can't believe Corin's final exam score and is more convinced than ever of Sera's guilt. Finally, we get to our reviews and announce that we will be reading The Black Prism by Brent Weeks next! Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

On the Shoulders of Titans: Part Two

July 23, 2020 17:47 - 53 minutes - 46.7 MB

You are the top first year enchanter at the Lorian Heights Academy. You have studied hard to get to the top and had to sacrifice to keep up your grades but the reward is well worth it. After acing your finals you take a well deserved break and spend an hour relaxing with a cup of tea in the cafeteria. You can't help but overhear some gossip about Corin Cadence, the idiot who almost blew off his hand with a homemade enchanted item. Your grip tightens around your tea cup as you hear story afte...

On the Shoulders of Titans: Part One

July 16, 2020 15:44 - 1 hour - 149 MB

Tons of questions this week about the curriculum in our schools, We're starting to get concerned that the bow and arrow lobby has too much power. Dan is turning in his spider accusation a little bit early, we feel good about getting some points towards graduation for that. Speaking of which, can we give our squad a pass for the year? Seems like they've earned it. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Sufficiently Advanced Magic: Part Three

July 09, 2020 18:56 - 1 hour - 53.3 MB

Luke and Dan start by addressing some comments from /r/climberscourt. Also, Luke mentions Patrick is a Shaper which is definitely wrong (he is an Elementalist, bruh) and you should definitely point it out to him in some way this week. Once again the boys criticize the teaching styles of the professors in the academy. The MVP and Rookie of the Year are announced and Luke needs an User's Manual for some of these freaking items. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Sufficiently Advanced Magic: Part Two

July 02, 2020 17:56 - 49 minutes - 114 MB

Thanks to everyone sending us your thoughts on the last episode, keep 'em coming by commenting on our reddit posts on the r/dontcallitabookclub or r/ClimbersCourt subreddits, tweeting us @DCitaBC, or checking out our facebook page. Dan is excited that we're giving enchanters some credit, but Luke pumps the brakes on becoming superfans. You've heard it before and you'll hear it again, give us some real magic sports! Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro magic.

Sufficiently Advanced Magic: Part One

June 25, 2020 18:03 - 57 minutes - 51 MB

Dan needs to know why Harry Potter never got Lasik (skip to 6:12 if you don't). Luke and Dan want a class revolution in Valia. They also start learning about our boy Corin, and he is either right where he needs to be and crushing it, or about to completely lose everything he wants and get kicked out of school for being an idiot. Gotta be one of those two or nothing. Finally, lets say Spider Division is real. You in? Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Circe: Part Three

June 18, 2020 21:31 - 56 minutes - 130 MB

A lot of questions and healthy debate over our boy Trygon. Cool or no? Tell us your thoughts by tweeting us @DCitaBC or commenting on our subreddit r/dontcallitabookclub. Now that Odysseus has gone down can we call some of his stories into question? We've got some theories on what really happened on the journey home. Make sure to read the beginning of Sufficiently Advanced Magic by Andrew Rowe for next week! Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Circe: Part Two

June 12, 2020 02:07 - 53 minutes - 47.7 MB

Very relatable rant today that all cooks will appreciate (skip to 5:10 if you've never cooked anything and just want to hear about Circe). Can we take just a few things off Daedalus's plate? My guy is the Greg Jennings of the Greek world. Oh c'mon, how do you not get that reference? And we know Circe's got a tough job trying to raise her son in these trying circumstances, hear some of our suggestions. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Circe: Part One

May 28, 2020 22:55 - 54 minutes - 126 MB

No spoilers today so if you haven't read up to chapter 11 stay away! Although if you're someone who can get spoiled by this book we want to hear your story, tweet at us with the hashtag #GreekSpoilers. A lot of strange sexual fantasies in this book so far and we focus on some you may have overlooked: Is Prometheus enjoying himself? Are there hot barnacles? Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Morning Star: Part Three

May 21, 2020 17:34 - 1 hour - 66.1 MB

Luke gets us warmed up with a Red Rover rant that is so on point (5:49). The boys want to see something cooler than a parrot. Luke takes an extremely bold stance and of course Dan tries to circle back to a venom stinger. An important question we need answered, are there memes in space? And YOU. GOTTA. CLEAR. THAT. HISTORY! I don't care your reasoning, this is unforgivable. Could they get through a series without Dan coming up with a ridiculous theory? Of course not. Next week we start Circe...

Morning Star: Part Two

May 14, 2020 17:09 - 59 minutes - 136 MB

The rants are back! Listen to Luke's very hot take about recipe blogs (or skip to 10:10 for book discussion). Dan is loving this book, but we do have one issue: Darrow you don't get to be Howler 1! Congrats to Sefi for making her vow of silence count, and it's time to put away our hopes for Jackal. I'm sorry it took so long Mustang, your newest story has convinced us. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Morning Star: Part One

May 07, 2020 21:16 - 1 hour - 54 MB

Dan reminds Darrow that his situation isn't really *that* bad. The boys have no idea where the Society's obsession with hummingbirds comes from but can't wait to see this Reaper hype video. While Luke isn't feeling great about his Jackal theory, Dan takes a much deserved victory lap. Also, the Boneriders have to know, right? They gotta know.... Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Golden Son: Part Three

April 30, 2020 16:10 - 1 hour - 181 MB

Dan thinks that Darrow has a great future in the WWE, and we have another what's in the box situation on our hands. Luke has an issue with Darrow's big reveal, and apparently still believes in Jackal?? And sorry robot haters, you can't keep 'em down forever. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Golden Son: Part Two

April 23, 2020 17:50 - 1 hour - 55.6 MB

Dan wants to know why no one in Sci-Fi seems to be concerned with deepfakes (book discussion starts at 4:50). So the box didn't contain a Bop-It, but we need some serious play-testing on this "game" before it is released. We speculate on the identity of Ares and this book is getting #emotional *NOT clickbait*. Speaking of #s, tweet at us with what you think the #AutumnTouch should entail. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Golden Son: Part One

April 16, 2020 19:00 - 1 hour - 148 MB

Darrow and the Red Rising series are back! Read up to chapter 15 for this episode and then stop if you’re an insane person like us. We get excited to meet Julian’s mother and human cactus, Mrs. Bellona who has managed to maintain a 2 year long hunger strike. Hats off to Fitchner for his great accomplishment, pulling off that cape. And yeah, we’re still on the venom stinger thing. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music

The Vagrant: Part Three

April 09, 2020 18:08 - 1 hour - 56.8 MB

Luke and Dan recommend podcasts they have been listening to during quarantine. If you don't want to hear us talk about Bambi and Chocolate Bear, the book discussion starts at 5:49. Goose with a venom stinger vs an ornery goat: who's got your money? We finally get someone who knows how to make a deal and the boys are tempted. Also, how embarrassing is it when your brain chip kicks into turbo mode while doing the easy Suduko? Next week we are returning to the Red Rising series with Golden So...

The Vagrant: Part Two

April 02, 2020 16:11 - 1 hour - 147 MB

We’re getting everybody involved with our first listener submitted rant (skip to 11:45 if sneezing isn’t relatable to you). The Uncivil is looking pretty smart right now, but be honest folks, would you have invested early? Seems like a risky business strategy. And we're once again asking the real questions: are goats predator or prey? Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

The Vagrant: Part One

March 26, 2020 16:51 - 54 minutes - 48.8 MB

In a return to form, Dan starts the episode with a profound observation on an everyday issue (5:58 to skip the rant). This world sounds absolutely terrible (#relatable, am I right), but Luke and Dan are very intrigued by the details. Also, what is keeping the Seven so busy that they couldn't send more than one? Is everyone but Gamma playing the new Animal Crossing? The boys wonder what kind of person signs a contract with team Uncivil and Dan unveils the motivation behind this demonic incurs...

Uncrowned

March 19, 2020 19:07 - 1 hour - 224 MB

Since everyone has so much extra time at home (stay safe everybody) we’ve got an extra long episode to round out our Cradle marathon. You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take so we let it rip with our Sacred Valley theories. Is it just me or do the Vroshir have a case? We’re joining up based on the Mad King’s flex alone. Stick with us next week as we start reading The Vagrant by Peter Newman and keep the comments coming on twitter (@DCitaBC), email ([email protected]) or facebook...

Underlord

March 12, 2020 04:00 - 1 hour - 86.7 MB

Dan gets pretty heated (some would say too heated) about some past comments (we love em). Luke and Dan puzzle out who we are rooting for in this series. Luke has some very important questions about Eithan (firstly, who is he hiding in there) and we need to get an invite to the Akura Halloween party this year if only to meet Mercy. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Ghostwater

March 05, 2020 21:08 - 1 hour - 204 MB

As a very professional podcast we never give away how much we like or dislike a book. Ok never is a strong word, you might be able to tell if we just liked Ghostwater or loved it. We start out addressing comments and highlights that we missed (email us dcbc@dontcallitabookclub or tweet/DM us @DCitaBC or comment on our post on the /r/iteration110Cradle subreddit). If anyone can’t follow Yerin’s fighting techniques, Dan’s here for you. Also, hey Lindon, are those cargo pants under that robe? ...

Skysworn

February 27, 2020 15:15 - 1 hour - 69.9 MB

With the death of one theory, another arises to take its place. Also, we have a few questions about y'alls alternative Jai Chen theory and we need answers. Luke reminds us that everythiing about this duel is insane. Dan needs to know how to game the algorithm to up his style rank. Oh and by the way, Sacred Valley is PRINTING PATH MANUALS!!! Somebody get Lindon a pdf, please. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Blackflame

February 20, 2020 22:31 - 1 hour - 168 MB

Name pronunciation is one of the few things we don't excel at and we admit (some of) our mistakes then address other comments from listeners. Send us more comments via twitter (@DCitaBC), email ([email protected]), or on the /r/iteration110Cradle subreddit. We explain how it's about time the janitors surpass the warriors in society, and finish with an incredible theory that for the first time we both actually agree on (63:07). Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Soulsmith

February 13, 2020 19:36 - 1 hour - 76.9 MB

Upon advancing to the peak of Soulsmith, the boys find they are overflowing with podcast madra. Dan and Luke respond to fellow sacred artists from /r/Iteration110Cradle. Keep sending us suggested topics (@DCitaBC, [email protected], or comment on the upcoming reddit post)! Dan is obviously on the path of controversial theories and Luke seems to be leaning Team Yerin. We end with a new segment featuring a question of vital importance. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outr...

Unsouled

February 07, 2020 00:57 - 1 hour - 158 MB

We begin our Cradle journey here with theories, nitpicks, and character critiques. What's up with Elder Whisper? How wrong was Lindon's choice of treasure? What can the tournament arena tell us about the Wei clan? We've got the answers. Get in touch with us if you've got comments on Unsouled or suggested topics for our next episode on Soulsmith. Tweet or DM us at @DCitaBC, email us at [email protected] or get involved in the conversation on the Cradle subreddit r/Iteration110Cradl...

Red Rising: Part Three

January 31, 2020 02:23 - 1 hour - 68.5 MB

This week on The Institute, tales of woe and heartbreak, triumph and glory, vengeance and betrayal. Be sure to tweet #RedRisingRealityShow with your vote for who should win this season! Your humble producers, Luke and Dan, suggest a new luxury pet that is bound to be all the rage. And we ask the all important question: who wants to hire these maniacs? Stay tuned, things get absolutely wild. Be sure to tune in next week for the first book in the Cradle series by Will Wight. That's right, th...

Red Rising: Part Two

January 24, 2020 02:10 - 58 minutes - 133 MB

Coming out of the gates swingin on this one with a very specific rant about hummus (if you couldn't care less about hummus skip to 9:50). If you made fun of Dan for his venom stinger request last week buckle up for his victory lap. Both of us choose to be pixies instead of going to the Institute and we crown an MVP. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

Red Rising: Part One

January 17, 2020 01:18 - 59 minutes - 58.2 MB

Daniel gets worked up about how much everyone is talking about a certain wellness brand that will not be named (take Dan's advice, lets just all agree to not talk about it and skip to 7:28 for Red Rising). Luke and Dan immediately violate their sacred code of ethics and reveal they are very into this book. Something we are not sure how to feel about: this air shower. Listener, is this a shower innovation or a futuristic nightmare? Tweet at us your thoughts (@DCitaBC). Also, this episode gets...

The Raveling: Alec Hutson Interview

January 10, 2020 02:44 - 1 hour - 153 MB

In a surprise twist, Alec comes back on the pod to talk our thoughts on The Raveling, grape seeds, and what is next in the Hutson universe. Don't miss Alec revealing jaw dropping truths about his trilogy you won't hear anywhere else! Next week we are reading Red Rising by Pierce Brown, so polish off that robot in the corner its time for some science fiction. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

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