In this episode of Radical Radiance, host Rebecca George is joined by Carole Leathem to delve into the topic of joy. This encouraging episode urges us all to create space for God in our lives during the busy-ness of Christmas and seek true joy in Christ.


Carole Leathem was a Hollywood commercial actress and pastor's wife. When her husband developed anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts, Carole began sharing the chaos and messiness that comes when caring for someone with a mental illness. Through her ministry, Carole's Journey, she encourages and uplifts hundreds of women all over the country with her flair for storytelling and raw transparency. Carole and her husband, Bill, live in Bakersfield, California, and are the parents of two grown miracle children and grandparents to seven grandchildren. Rebecca and Carole chat about:

Shifting our focus to Jesus during the Christmas season

Two scripture passages that Carole always reads during Advent

Defining joy as an abiding delight by abiding in Christ

Finding joy despite challenging circumstances

Unpacking James 1:2-4 and finding joy in seasons of suffering

Carole's personal experience of finding joy in the midst of her husband's struggles



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